Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

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  1. barefoot2626

    barefoot2626 Well-Known Member

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    Giant loophole.
     
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    Please. Every left winger was popping the champagne corks till they started having meltdowns after meeting reality.
     
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    barefoot2626 Well-Known Member

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    And every right winger was sweating bullets.

    But people who knew how to read polls knew that a election with the polls
    within the margin of error was going to be close.
     
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    I bet that makes you feel better than a cry room and play dough.
     
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    Read my signature.
     
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    That has been a strange exchange, I must consult the new revised DSM in order to find the correct analysis.
     
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    Read my sign language.
     
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    By the way: a loophole in a law is a loophole in the law, it has absolutely
    ZERO to do with Brady or Brady or anyone else's intention.

    The loophole(s) addressed by UBC is the fact that the inadequacy of the
    current background check law allows a very large percentage of gun
    buyers to escape a review that would OUT many as ineligible to own
    firearms.
     
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    That's not a loophole. The law does exactly what the authors wanted it to do.
     
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    what a stupid appeal to irrelevant authority. its like debating civil rights and saying (which was probably true at one point) 90% of the voters don't think blacks are the equal of whites. You have been thoroughly destroyed and your response to spew out some poll numbers

    guess what-poll numbers do not refute that:

    its illegal for a felon in all but some extremely limited cases-to hold a firearm

    its illegal to lie on the a 4473

    If you are PROPERLY DENIED a sale on a 4473 after the check, you have committed federal perjury which is a FELONY

    the Brady bill and background checks have never been proved to decrease violent crime in any way

    There is no evidence that universal background checks will do anything to decrease violent crime
     
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    (quoted)
    A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or security,
    which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the purpose, implied or explicitly
    stated, of the system.

    English.
     
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    but the brady bill was never intended to cover private sales and congress doesn't have any authority

    its like saying that when school mothers agree to carpool each others kids, its a LOOPHOLE that they don't have CDLs while those who drive Children professionally as school bus drivers or limousine drivers have to have CDLs.
     
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    Common sense is dead, it began to die when anti gun folks changed the pardigm and adapted it to mean, Disarm Law Abiding Citizens to the low wattage sheeple by convincing them common sense means the exact opposite of what it used to mean.

    So you apply the words common sense and that gives license to pluck numbers out of the air? Well there is some left hook strategy there.
     
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    It is particularly galling when it is suggested the NICS be denied private sellers under various excuses, then they are blamed for not doing background checks and, as barefoot puts it, knowingly sells guns to wife beaters.
    Understandable though, in the context, the BM want to force a registration system, not really mitigate the problem used for its justification.
     
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    Your refusal to see relevance does not mean anything.

    You will note in this exchange, that not a single poster has come forward to agree with your position on anything, be it what you supposedly said, or what you are saying currently. To the contrary, they are repeating the same message that you are incorrect in what you are saying.
     
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    As others have correctly noted, the legislation was never intended to apply to individuals who sell privately owned firearms to other private individuals. It was intended to apply solely and exclusively to those who are federally licensed firearms dealers, and no one else.
     
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    Yeah we need to close the private gun sales loophole
     
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    . . . without background check.

    An obvious solution would be using FFLs.
     
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    anyone with a brain understands that other to placate the slow witted, the calls for a UBGC is to create a need for registration
     
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    which means hassling lawful gun owners while criminals won't bother. why should I drive to a dealer and pay him money just so I can sell, give, lend my brother or coworker a gun?
     
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    Yeah that would be good
     
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    don't care.

    You will notice most laws (if not every single law in the history of mankind) is
    passed than modified as needed to suit the population.

    Such as the population of 90 percent of Americans who want universal background
    checks for all gun sales.
     
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    90% of the population are obviously oblivious about the constitution or the fact that such checks won't do squat to decrease crime. Do you think stupid laws should be passed merely because they are popular? if that is true, laws banning homosexual sodomy or interracial marriage would have been on the books for many more years than they were. They were not repealed but erased by the courts CONTRARY to the wishes of the majority at the time
     
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    I have pointed out before I don't look around and beg for the approval of others
    before posting.

    Putting aside, of course, you statement is an outright lie.

    What I have noticed is the very small minority of people who insist they have
    special rights to sell deadly weapons shout down anyone that wonders here to
    offer his or her opinions.

    And that results in much less than a public forum.
     
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    Ouch!

    You don't want to get caught agreeing with me.
     
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