CBO releases new estimates on Obamacare repeal bill; 23 million would lose insurance coverage

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  1. Libby

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    Not opinion; not spin. Fact.
     
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    Over the 14 year period it comes out to $29 billion a year which is relatively 1/3rd of the $140 billion in Medicaid fraud alone. It's cheaper for the Government to just pay it than insure them.
     
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    Are you claiming that more than 25% od Medicaid spending is fraudulent? That certainly doesn't say much for the medical profession. And of course the two numbers are totally unconnected unless you think the Medicaid recipients are the ones committing the fraud.
     
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    Did the CBO take into account how many will lose health coverage if we keep 0bamacare?
     
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    Why don't you read the thing before you ask a question that you could easily figure out on your own? I realize it is 41 pages, and you're probably not that big into reading being a Trump supporter and all. Who knew healthcare was so complicated? Oh yeah. Everyone who isn't ****ing dumb.
     
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    It's also about who it is that gets health care and who does not.

    That's made crystal clear by every rational evaluation of the Republican health care direction.
     
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    I'm fine with pursuing Medicare/Medicaid fraud.

    I'm NOT fine with dumping those who can't afford health care.

    And, I think these two get confused a LOT.
     
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    Probably because Republicans believe that all poor people are actually lazy and Needing help is by itself proof of fraud.
     
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    Versus Democrats, who believe all poor people are victims?
     
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    Ah another Republican unsubstantiated rant.
     
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    Except a) it's true and b) I'm not a Republican.
     
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    Nobody thinks all poor people are victims. Plus, that bit of nonsense doesn't even identify of what it is that they could be a victim.

    Let's try for a rational conversation here.
     
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    Coming from the left extremists, the "victim" label is enough. No need to dig deeper into determining victim of what.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    Nothing related to your nonsense comes from the left.

    So, you haven't even scratched the surface - merely propagating a Republican meme that has never been based on evidence of any kind.
     
  15. Libby

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    If you are truly as unaware as you are pretending to be, I don't know what to do. It's like I'm saying water is wet, and you are saying prove it. Maybe try Google and sort this out on your own....
     
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    Being wildly wrong (like they were with their "rosy" assessment of Obamacare), is what the CBO does....without fail.
     
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    Of course it is idiotic to believe that all democrats think all poor people are victims. And thinking like a pin head Republican certainly makes you one in spirit no matter what you delude yourself into believing you are.
     
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    Yep it is for sure that the Trump healthcare plan is going to miraculously insure more people. The only thing the CBO is wrong about is that the 23 million additional uninsured is probably too low.
     
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    Bullcrap. It will be almost entirely young healthy adults, who choose to spend their income elsewhere, instead of being forced to pay for myriad coverages that they do not need.

    The CBO ALWAYS overestimates the effectiveness of government "solutions", and vastly underestimates the effectiveness of market-based solutions. ALWAYS. It is a Big Government propaganda arm...
     
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    Wow so you actually believe that the uninsured are the young and healthy. Nice to know that their ranks will increase thanks to Trump. The man is clearly a miracle worker.

    Just for vman 12 Let me note that sarcasm intended.
     
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    There isn't any question here. It is the right wing that sees themselves as victims.

    And, the victimization they see themselves suffering comes in that they have to pay taxes - an absolute requirement of civilization.
     
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    The victim card is one of the first things in the Democrat's playbook. Pointing it out does not make me a Republican. Some of you are so insanely far to the left and partisan, that anything other than a mindless extreme left-wing parrot is a Republican to you. OMG someone disagreed with me and I have no rebuttal, I'll just call them a Republican!!!!!!!

    For God's sake I wish people would drop the partisan b******* and think for themselves. The right is guilty of this sometimes also, but the left seems to be trying to corner the market.

    Either way, this silly little back-and-forth has run its course and I'm done interacting with you for the time being. Try having one thought today that's actually your own, you'll find it quite liberating. Have a great day.
     
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    Actually they only feel victimized when the taxes go to help the less fortunate. They seem to have no problems with taxes that go to wars and military weapons and corporate welfare.
     
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    So your endlessly parroting the victim meme is thinking for yourself. Believe I will ignore your example of critical thinking.
     

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