On simple fact of life democrats dont want to talk about.

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  1. WCH

    WCH Active Member

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    It was 75% in California. Just the same.
     
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    The ever growing wage gap tells a different story I think.
     
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    I engaged in another thread of yours and you failed to respond....and since this thread is just flamebaiting I can't see why I should address the topic here either...
     
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    Was that a defense of any kind? At best it was a total avoidance of the question.

    Even more of interest to me is that anyone on the left might dare to use Scripture as their weapon. Unless of course, you are willing to be held accountable to so many of the other principle teachings found therein.
     
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    I said it wasn't the purpose. When you have a POTUS that actively seeks to weaken a country, that's a different story.
     
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    Quoting scripture can be a pretty effective way of pointing out hypocrisy. I don't think I need to live by any theology to use their texts in debate.

    Not sure of your point on this one. Could be that I'm being dense, so I apologize.
    Are you referring to present or past POTUSs?
     
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    Oh, that must mean that poverty doesn't exist in places like Kansas or Utah where leftists have no power. That's good to know
     
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    Conservatives have the power to change that. If that makes poverty disappear I am with you.
     
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    Past...recent past.
     
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    It 'means' that they [the Left] still have control of local and state politics. Which in turn means they continue to be voted in by the poor. [among others]
     
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    Ah, I see. But considering the number of poor in this country it could be said that every local official was voted in by the poor.
     
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    One thing that right-wing socialists don't want to talk about is how poor whites keep voting for economic policies that do not benefit them.
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    As LBJ points out how out-of-your-mind stupid poor whites voters are.

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    No they don't, not in those states...but anyway the point I am trying to make is that poverty will not go away simply by voting for Conservatives.
    Let me ask you this what would a government without any "liberals" in it do to end poverty?
     
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    Reagan was a great example of this. He was one of those who benefited from FDRs policies on his way up and as soon as he got a few bucks together he became another typical, "I got mine, so screw you" Republicans...
     
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    Encourage welfare recipients to get a job...for one.
     
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    Most live in Urban setting where the Left rules.
     
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    Correct, you need not live by any theology to point out hypocrisy. But to cite another passage: "that by which you measure shall be measured back to you." I am not convinced the "unchurched" or the "lukewarm" pay much heed to that.
    I will forever remain dumbfounded by man's indifference to the Creator.
     
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    So the 1/4th of poor people that actually do vote are all hyper focused in urban areas? Still doesn't seem like enough to carry the vote. Maybe there's a different reason for Left dominance of those areas to consider?
    Do you believe that, assuming everything you've said about the voting poor is true, it delegitimizes local governments run by the left?
    As a side question, where are the other three quarters located and why are they not voting?
     
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    They probably don't pay much heed to what they quote you're right. They know you do, and whether that's fair or not it's effective and they know that.

    You just can't make faith jive with people to whom it doesn't make sense. It's not necessarily indifference to a creator, it's just a lack of belief there is one. I used to ride that train back in the day, but I left for my own reasons. Can't blame people for hoping off or not getting on in the first place.
     
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    Why do we have second and third generation people on welfare. What about the Great Society, and the Trillions spent on welfare?
     
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    People fall through the cracks.
     
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    Yes, you are correct, it does give me pause. And it, in most instances, has merit and is somewhat effective. The one exception to that I can think of is when some non-Biblical follower uses the "do not judge lest ye be judged" retort. For starters, I seriously doubt they know what that means or how it is mostly meant to be applied.

    Well, ok. I am not meaning to assign blame because, for starters, no one but God knows the individual, his origins, his nurturing, the opportunities given and the opportunities not given. Worth noting, the Catholic Church never says any particular person in history is in hell because the Church is wise enough to know its place and that God knows far more than it does.

    But that does not stop me from trying to understand why it does not make sense to them. There will always remain mysteries beyond our understandings, apparent contradictions, paradoxes, and teachings that go against our alleged well-formed consciences. But that in itself is not enough reason to dismiss --- what I submit is --- empirical evidence for the Judeo-Christian deity. That alone arrests me for always and ever. I am just never all that impressed with their dismissals of said evidence.
     
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    Its a rather large class of working people. Like the walmart employees who are paid non-subsistent wages and are forced to utilize the social programs designed for those in need. "those in need" seems to me a guy with long hair, sandals and walked on water had quite a bit to say about the subject.

    Who knew he was a stinking leftist swine forcing the poor to remain poor by giving them handouts.

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