TRUMP TRIED TO CONVINCE NSA CHIEF TO ABSOLVE HIM OF ANY RUSSIAN COLLUSION: REPORT

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  1. Tijuana

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    It seems you want to ignore the post I was responding to, that makes this wild claim:

    Trump was asking him to "obstruct justice" and interfere in the Russia/Trump investigation.

    But Flynn isn't under investigation for collusion in the campaign either. He is under investigation for his own issues, namely not reporting his status as a lobbyist for Turkey until after it came out publicly. What are you on about?

    You people have throw so much **** at the wall, that you can't even sort out which bits you think stuck.
     
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    More idiot quotes. Only a Trump supporter could be this brainwashed and confused. If it doesn't come down the Trump slime road it's not news. How embarrassing for you.
    "Report: Trump asked Comey to end FBI’s Flynn-Russia investigation"
    Yahoo News May 16

    'A second consecutive day of bombshell stories sent the Trump administration scrambling after the New York Times reported Tuesday that President Trump implored FBI Director James Comey to drop the bureau’s investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s ties to Russia at a February meeting."
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-trump-asked-comey-end-flynn-investigation-221236730.html
     
  3. Tijuana

    Tijuana Well-Known Member

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    If you can't win a debate with your intellect, just resort to name calling. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
     
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    B.S. Your butt was whipped. .You have no facts at all. Every newspaper and News blog in the country proves I'm correct.
    what a hateful way of debating. Go drink more Orange Cool-Aide. Only pathological Trump believes his opinions are facts..

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    "Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation"
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/...ey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?_r=0
     
  5. Tijuana

    Tijuana Well-Known Member

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    What are you even arguing? All you say is that I'm wrong and something something name calling. Are you last person left who thinks Trump is being investigated for Trump-Russia collusion? Do you literally not know that this myth died in the Comey hearing?



    Also, your article you linked is also refuted by Comey.



    Good game. /ass slap
     
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    Witch hunt! How original. Wherever did you come up with that?
     
  7. ThorInc

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    So, what Trump trying to hide? Who's interest is he trying to protect by abusing his powers of office to obstruct justice? Why can't he just let this go & do his job? :)
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of his job is being done but it does seem the real thorn in the side is.....he can't get it done completely when the Senate is focused on removing him from office rather than doing their job. They just don't have the fortitude to attach their political fortune to a President they hope to impeach, thus preserving their little honey hole of government perks.The establishment effort is bi-partisan.
     
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    Nice, big, bold font... must be important. Is it time to impeach yet?
     
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    Truth is the NSA reports provided to the FBI had in fact absolved Trump, even before any alleged conversations took place. Feinstein, and the "gang of 8" were all informed by Rogers that no evidence of collusion was discovered by the NSA investigators. Trump, wanted those facts made public to counter false allegations that were undermining the administations ability to govern effectively. It's a reasonable enough request. Dems who expect congress to construe appeals for transparency as obstruction will be sadly disappointed.
     
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    Trump is abusing the power of his office and has gone out of his way to obstruct the normal course of justice. He is firing people that are looking into matters he does not want them investigating, hence, he is putting his thumb on the scale to stop an investigation into possible crimes. He is exhibiting the actions of a guilty man with something to hide, consciousness of guilt. Trump is saying, "People I need you to back me up as I can't stand on my own two feet and deal with the situation I put myself into", the blameless victim whiner card again.
     
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    And Mueller has a history of rare expertise when it comes to obstructing justice.

    “Still, the problems with Justice persisted. And the timing of some of Mr. Mueller's moves raised eyebrows. In September 1991, Justice indicted six BCCI figures and a reputed Colombian drug lord on racketeering charges. The indictment was unveiled just minutes after then-Congressman Charles Schumer issued a report sharply critical of Justice Department handling of the case. ... Mr. Mueller also engaged in a running series of battles with the Manhattan District Attorney, Robert Morgenthau. According to news reports over the years, Justice prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Mr. Morgenthau's office, documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating.


    The December 1991 settlement of criminal charges against BCCI, which Terwilliger described as "a fair arrangement," uncovered "only $1.5 billion in the coffers of a bank that once held $22 billion in deposits." This missing money has never been traced.” FBI DIRECTOR MUELLER WAS AT CENTER OF ALLEGED BCCI COVERUP IN 1991, Published: May 26, 2009.
    http://www.blacklistednews.com/FBI_...ed_BCCI_coverup_in_1991/4304/0/20/20/Y/M.html
     
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    blacklistednews.com..................................now that's a totally credible blog.
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/blacklisted-news/

    Mueller was praised by both side of the isle until the GOP discovered he is investigating obstruction of justice as well.
     
  16. Ddyad

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    LOL! So you think the GOP supports Trump?
    Oh, come on - you know better. ;-)

    In fact, Mueller was exposed as a tool of the crooked bipartisan political establishment decades ago.

    “In Washington, Robert S. Mueller, assistant attorney general in charge of the department's criminal division, said "the Justice Department has fully supported the work of Dist. Atty. Robert Morgenthau related to the bank's Manhattan activities." He added: "We have provided substantial information to Mr. Morgenthau and will continue to cooperate in the investigation."
    However, the Justice Department appeared to be one of the few agencies Morgenthau omitted from his office's prepared statement on the case, heaping thanks on everybody from Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan to various officials of the Federal Reserve System and New York state officials.
    The one-sided claim of cooperation illustrates Mueller's eagerness to play down reports that the Justice Department has not answered Morgenthau's requests for information.” LOS ANGELES TIMES, BCCI, 2 Founders Indicted; U.S. Imposes Record Fine, July 30, 1991|VICTOR F. ZONANA | TIMES STAFF WRITER.
    http://articles.latimes.com/1991-07-30/news/mn-126_1_record-fine/2

    Is the LAT a GOP rag?
     
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    Now you are moving the goal posts.............

    Mueller was praised by the GOP (including pro Trumpers) before the investigation into obstruction of justice. Use your critical thinking ability. It was only after Comey indicated that Mueller was investigating obstruction of justice all the anti-Mueller spin kicked up to high gear. Try to think man......
     
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    LOL! How many times do I have to say that the RP is repulsive - that it "stinks on ice" for it to sink in? If you want to find a blind factional partisan - look in the mirror. The you need to get over it - think.

    Mueller has been linked directly to the corrupt clandestine Deep State enemies of Trump for decades.

    “A score of government agencies here and abroad are investigating BCCI and congressional committees are organizing hearings. Some are expected to look into reports that BCCI did considerable business with the Central Intelligence Agency.”

    "I don't have any supervisory authority over the CIA," Morgenthau said.” LOS ANGELES TIMES, BCCI, 2 Founders Indicted; U.S. Imposes Record Fine, July 30, 1991|VICTOR F. ZONANA | TIMES STAFF WRITER.
    http://articles.latimes.com/1991-07-30/news/mn-126_1_record-fine/2

    FYI, the LAT is a DP rag.
     
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    I'll dumb it down this time only:
    Trump is guilty of obstructing justice and abusing his powers by his own actions with multiple government IC leads. <- You choose to ignore this of course
    Mueller was appointed (by Rosenstein, a Trump appointee) to investigate Trump/Russia et al and it likely includes grounds for impeachment <- You choose to focus on trying to besmirch Mueller motives <- think, your bias is slapping you around.
     
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    Just more Fake News. Read the Comey transcript.
     
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    There is no excuse for blind partisan acceptance of exposed Fake News sources.

    “The story was complied by four CNN journalists, including Gloria Borger, Eric Lichtblau, Jake Tapper and Brian Rokus. Borger reiterated the report's claims in an appearance on CNN on Tuesday. “Comey is going to dispute the president on this point if he’s asked about it by senators, and we have to assume that he will be," said Borger, the network's chief political analyst. "He will say he never assured Donald Trump that he was not under investigation, that that would have been improper for him to do so.” THE HILL, CNN issues correction after Comey statement contradicts reporting, BY JOE CONCHA - 06/07/17.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...n-after-comey-statement-contradicts-reporting

    Wake up.
     
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    Keep sleeping. The NSA director, DNI director have never answered the question in public that Trump did not ask them to do this. They used reverse "exec priv" to avoid answering this and did not deny it either. The ex-FBI director did in fact answer the question. You are projecting your narrow view onto to me without first looking inward. <- Typical mental block (inability) of a blind Trump supporter. Trump obstructed justice with a pattern of abuse of power.
     
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    You have accused Trump of colluding with the Russians to fix the election - that was always an obvious Big Fat Lie - Fake News. You can be excused for believing the MSM then, but now you know for a fact that your sources are incredible. The excuse for believing media liars has evaporated. Comey has knocked down the obstruction of justice nonsense. It is another Fake News dead end for already disappointed Trump haters.

    Do you think Obama's NSA chief was covering up for Trump? How about Lynch? Do you think Obama was a Trumpster? You need to find better sources of information.
     
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    Why else would Trump hire a long time Putin stooge like Manafort to run his campaign if not to get help from Russian Military Intel in the election? After that hire he went on national TV and urged the Russians to steal more of Hillary's emails and leak them. Then, Manafort was suddenly fired once these Russian hacking stories surfaced. I am not so sure anyone can prove that Trump conspired with the Ruskies, or if he was even aware of it, but it sure looks like people high up in his campaign did. We should all just wait and see what the investigation turns up. If Trump and Sessions are clean in this matter, they should fully support the findings and do whatever it takes to make sure that a hostile foreign entity can not act to influence our elections in the future. Maybe the Russians are hard at work co-opting a Democrat stooge right now to be their next puppet. If nothing else, this whole deal has shined a bright spotlight on Trump and his associates which will make it less likely for them to get away with any shady pay for play deals with Russia. These hearings and investigations are good for America...
     
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    Given that Manafort and the rest of the Trump campaign were under comprehensive NSA surveillance it is safe to conclude that none of them colluded with Russia.

    Otherwise the Obama/Lynch would have played and displayed the communications for a grand jury and happily indicted and arrested every colluder - game over.

    Comey even admitted that Trump had told him to nail anyone on his team involved in collusion.

    "The assumption of the critics of the president, of his pursuers, you might say, is that somewhere along the line in the last year is the president had something to do with colluding with the Russians … to affect the election in some way," Matthews said on MSNBC, following the testimony.

    "And yet what came apart this morning was that theory," Matthews said, listing two reasons why. First, he said Comey revealed that "Flynn wasn't central to the Russian investigation," and secondly, he said that kills the idea that Flynn might have been in a position to testify against Trump.

    "And if that's not the case, where's the there-there?" Matthews said.

    In his testimony, Comey confirmed media reports that Trump had asked him if he could drop the FBI investigation into Flynn and that the president had asked for his "loyalty." But Comey also asserted that he had told Trump that he was not personally under any investigation and that the president had encouraged the Russia investigation, even if it implicated any of his associates.” Chris Matthews: Trump-Russia collusion theory 'came apart' with Comey testimony, By Eddie Scarry, Thursday, June 08, 2017.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...me-apart-with-comey-testimony/article/2625372

    I suspect you can imagine how painful that admission was for Matthews/MSNBC.
     

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