Activists Protest ‘Conversion Therapy’ Conference In San Diego

what in the blue moon does a penguin have to do with those living the homosexual lifestyle, who are more likely to have mental disorders such as depression and attempts at suicide, are protesting those who seek to help them?

Good grief, it's like refusing to let the firemen put out your house fire.

 

How so exactly?

 

They don't need help. What's being offered is not help, it compounds the situation....which, by the way leads to depression and suicide attempts.

 

In case you hadn't noticed, homosexuals don't procreate.

 

a group which has a higher occurence of HIV, suicide, attempted suicide and depression, doesn't need help???
Is that seriously your position? Given that there is no medical proof that one is "born homosexual" then there must be something which triggers the choice to live that lifestyle. If it's just an action from a larger mental instability then we must try and help. We help those who live the heterosexual lifestyle and try and kill themselves. Choosing gay sex is nothing more than a symptom of a larger problem.

Feel free to toss any label you want at me but as someone who believes in helping his fellow man, I'll ignore your silly label as it has no meaning to me whatsoever. I'll never understand why you have such hatred toward those who help

 

The label I would give you is ignorance cloaked with malice under the guise of benevolence.
I don't have hatred, I have disgust. You want to hang your hat on "no medical proof" but continue with "then there must be" and "If it's" which means you don't have proof of your claims.
All evidence points to genetics but no, they haven't found the "gay" gene.........yet.

 

YOu don't choose attraction. Ignorant bigots can say that all they want, doesn't make it true. If it were a choice, there would be a hell of a lot more homosexual men. Think of all the bars, parties, etc where its more guys than women. Frat parties would be giant orgies if men could choose to be attracted to the same sex.

Men wouldn't be fighting after very attractive women, if they can be with a homely or obese cool woman, if attraction was a choice

 

OK I get it. You've no facts to support your belief so the insults must be tossed.

Please understand that your opinion and/or insults might actually cause me some concern if I at all valued your opinion.

 

In other words, because you have a medically unsupported belief, those who are trying to help fellow man are targets of your disdain because we do not share your belief.

Is that where it has gotten to be, persecute those looking to help, and embrace those who wish to turn a deaf ear to the problem?

 

You seem to be forgetting your "help" is not only medically unsupported but medically ridiculed. Please, stop with your "help".

 

Just wanted to address everybody commenting.

I don't recall making a choice on my sexual orientation. So i doubt the claim that it's chosen. As for whether it's genetic or not, I don't know, I don't really see why it matters.

As for it going against nature. Who cares? Air conditioning goes against nature and that's great.

Homosexuals can procreate. They are the same species as other humans. They just have to seek a person outside of their couple to do it. Many indeed do.

As far as homosexuals that don't want to be homosexual, I don't care in the least. People can do what they want. Though it seems misguided to me, I'm nobody to tell others what to do. I find faith healing and voodoo rather doubious, but most people that believe in that nonsense don't ask me. Best of luck to those hopeful for a conversion to a different sexuality.

 

Help? Hell, it's using children as lab rats for untried and untested psychological experiments. It's a heinous thing to promote.

 

It's not a choice, but it IS learned behaviour. If it can be learned, it can be unlearned. There MUST be space in this world for 'conversion therapy' for those who want it. I despise those who would outlaw it. Terrible people, who evidently care more about their agenda than the people they claim to support.

Some gay men really do want and need this particular kind of help, so their allies should support it. Or do allies only support 'gay things' which come with hipster-approval?

 

No, you should let crazy people do whatever they like. It's the feelingz thing to do.

Seriously, you and I both know that these fools will only defend the cool crazy. Conventional crazy is just not sexy enough for them.

 

That's western-centric nonsense. People can and do stop abusing alcohol/drugs and never touch the stuff again. You're indoctrinated with 'not my fault' ideology.

 

As always, Poly .. the voice of reason

 

Oh look, someone's been rummaging around in 1970.

Still, it's always good comedy when someone pulls out their moth-eaten, dog-eared 'phobe' card. Like little old ladies thinking Sunday Best is still a thing

 

Booyah!

 

How is it learned?

 

No. It is not learned behavior. You have no evidence to support this. And, I don't know a single person who would want to be converted by a bunching religious psychos.

 

The only nonsense is coming from your fingertips. Doesn't the fact that they never touch alcohol again prove my point? I'll help you, it does. Why? Because once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. To put it in terms of the subject of the thread one can go thru your "therapy" and marry the opposite sex but the attraction for the same sex is still there.......just as the attraction for alcohol.
By the way, what is western-centric mean? Is there a eastern-centric?

 

Except they do. Lots of homosexuals have children.

 

For what it's worth, there are some heterosexuals who never procreate either by choice or for medical reasons as well.

 

Many right-wing religious groups promote the concept that an individual can change his or her sexual orientation, either through prayer or other religious efforts, or through so-called "reparative" or "conversion" therapy. Research on such efforts has disproven their efficacy, and also has indicated that they can be affirmatively harmful.

Beyond studies focused solely on reparative therapy, broader research clearly demonstrates the significant harm that societal prejudice and family rejection has on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people, particularly youth. Furthermore, there is significant anecdotal evidence of harm to LGBT people resulting from attempts to change their sexual orientation. Based on this body of evidence, every major medical and mental health organization in the United States has issued a statement condemning the use of reparative therapy.

Coversion/reparative therapy is tantamount to "brainwashing." In other words you may be convinced that you are heterosexual, but it amounts to suppressing your innate sexual orientation. The potential risks of "reparative therapy" are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior, since therapist alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the patient.

Many patients who have undergone "reparative therapy" relate that they were inaccurately told that homosexuals are lonely, unhappy individuals who never achieve acceptance or satisfaction. The possibility that the person might achieve happiness and satisfying interpersonal relationships as a gay man or lesbian is not presented, nor are alternative approaches to dealing with the effects of societal stigmatization discussed.

Therefore, the American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as "reparative" or "conversion" therapy which is based upon the priori assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation.

 

Blah, blah, blah.....bigots supporting bigotry.