pedophiles going public

Not going to happen!

https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/management/administration/requirements/laws/

 

Oh yeah?

Everyone laughed when homosexuals demanded the right to marry and look what happened

 

For this reason we need to forbid adults to hug children even if children wants to? What if the child do it only from fear of reprisal?

I'm totally against it, for me it's not different from blackmail. And I believe that such actions must always be forbidden in child/adult relationships, even if they are quite common in adult/adult relationships.

You can not make murder harmless by simple change in moral values.

 

Completely different legal scenarios.

Homosexuals were being unconstitutionally denied EQUAL rights under the Law of the Land to marry the CONSENTING ADULT of their choice.

Minor CHILDREN cannot consent to sexual intercourse.

That you can't tell the difference says volumes.

 

It is not at all different

The unelected judges decide what is or isnt constitutional

Gay marriage is legal only because the unelected judges say so

 

You can not distinguish sexual orientation from disorder because it's not scientific terms. Society decides what is norm, not scientific or medical community.

Another completely wrong and baseless statement. The great majority of pedophiles prefer children from only one gender. Even those who claimed to like both genders still strongly prefers only one.

 

I view Pedophilia as one of many deviant sexual fetishes, but pretty much the worst.

If a pedophile was "born that way" then there would be genetic links, however, like homosexuality, there have been no proven genetic links.

Pedophilia is a criminal deviant behavior against the most innocent helpless people, children. Adult pedophiles convicted on hard evidence of raping obviously underage children should be executed as one would shoot a rabid dog. Their risk to society is too great. Castrating them and/or giving them a full frontal lobotomy would create another freeloading drain on society, as would putting them in prison for life.

 

But if the unelected liberal judges say pedopilia is legal just like homosexual marriage there is nothing society can do to stop it

 

Bogus! If a pedophile could not consciously control their acts then they would be taking children in broad daylight and begin raping them straightaway, even in front of a policeman.

Like all criminals, they try to hide their crimes.

 

That...is an entirely different matter and one that makes life difficult for the legal system. Technically before a certain date on a calendar it's legal for two teenagers to have sex. Then once that date hits...it's not. A lot of the time if it's an established relationship it's overlooked.

Until someone complains (perhaps as a result of a broken relationship...and now it's statutory rape.

Hence...the nightmare.

But you've never made that clear until just now. Until now...you've always said "child" and the implication of the world child...is that of a child. Elementary school aged, underroos wearing, playing with dolls and/or action figures...children.

 

He didn't said about victim's age, he said about age difference between the criminal and the victim. What changes when the criminal become older?

 

It was a CONSERVATIVE court that ruled against the unconstitutional DOMA because it was UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

There is no such argument for child abuse.

 

They don't arrest them for being a pedophile. They're arrested for their actions as a result of their being a pedophile. Actions like engaging in sex or sexual practices with a child, putting children into sexual situations, photographing and/or video recording children in sexual situations, being in possession of images and/or video recordings of children in sexual situations, distributing images and/or video recordings of children in sexual situations.

If being a pedophile was a crime, then these people would never get out of prison since they can't stop being pedophiles. But they do...once they've served the sentence they received as punishment for the acts they have committed.

 

Another load of bovine excrement!

 

That's kind of the point. We have been making claims of harm to the child without presenting exactly what that harm is. If we start from the concept of "minor" that means we are dealing with anyone under the age of 18. So a 16 yo engaging in say oral sex or mutually consented groping is probably not going to experience any harm, especially with a peer within a few years of age. With the gun we can show the danger or the bullet being fired to cause death. With the drugs, we can list the physical and psychological effects that drugs cause to a body. But we have yet to list the harms associated with a child having sex. Now I do understand that the thread is bout pedophiles meaning adults having sex with children. But Landover seems to be arguing for sex in general, meaning child with child, I think. I haven't seen his response of my questioning that as of my response to this post. So the point is valid.

We need to identify things like the physical damage an adult male can cause to either the vagina or rectum of any child. Also the potential psychological damage a child can suffer even with sex with another child.

 

Law do not punish them for having sex with adults, then how they're unable?

 

I linked the harm in post #222 above.

 

We both completely aware of what we're talking about then why we need definitions?

 

That would be rather like punishing the victim of a sexual assault for the sexual assault.

 

Pedophilia is the attraction. Child mollestation is the crime. A pedophile is not arrested unless they actually molest a child. No one arrests a pedophile when they find out they are one. There are many who wish they would.

 

No, you do not appear to be aware of the definitions at all!

 

This is what I was talking about, in detailing the damages, not just saying it causes harm.

 

Who are the innocent people in prison?

 

Judges should be overwatched by their respective congresses. Although on the Fed level, a judge has never been impeached for an unlawful ruling---this needs to change.

 

You still can't get around the ability of being able to give informed consent. Homosexual adults can give that informed consent. Children can't do so.