Dems are 0-4 in Special Elections since Trump

Ah, but none of those presidents (except Obama) tried to "transform" America and overreached to try and control 1/6th of the U.S. economy or force people to buy something they may, or may not want, or afford. And then lie about it to the people telling them they can keep their doctor, and lie about it being "affordable", yadda-yadda.

That's where you have to go back to pre-1929 to find where they've lost that much power. In fact, dems began losing power and elections in 2010 and there's no change in sight. In 2018, 23 democrat senators are up for reelection and 10 of them are in serious trouble that could EASILY give republicans a senate "super majority" and eliminate any democrat obstruction.

Yet democrats still don't get it continuing their typical character assassination of Trump with unsubstantiated claims of collusion with Russians through a lying media. And then how about the severed head of Trump or the play depicting the assassination of Trump. If anyone is on the voting fence of who to vote for, they certainly won't be in the next election. Next up, a republican "super majority" in the Senate.

Steve .

 

I highly doubt a super majority in the senate. There are 25 Democrats up for re-election next year vs. 9 for the GOP. But as of today looking into the potential races the Democrats have two seats at risk as of today, Indiana and Missouri, the Republicans also have two seats at risk, Nevada and Arizona. The rest looks fairly safe. As of today, even North Dakota and Montana look fairly safe with Tester and Heitkamp for the Democrats. Although those two seats could become competitive, they're not as of today. The people of Montana and North Dakota are very happy with their Democratic senators.

11 of the Democratic seats up for re-election are in the Northeast and West Coast, no republican is going to win there. That is very anti-Trump and anti-Republican territory. Where else? Minnesota, New Mexico, Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio? Beating an incumbent during an off year election is mighty hard. Especially when a president is as unpopular as Trump.

 

I'm going by the fact that the 10 senators in serious trouble are ones that are in states that voted Trump in 2016. Given all the BS in the media and open threats of presidential assassination, that profoundly changes the picture in Trump's and republican's favor. Trump isn't the problem here, it is the democrat policies and insanity SINCE 2010.

But you can be brainwashed by the media all you wish, that is SUPPOSED to be on the side of the people but has been obviously politically active in favor of the democrat party. I have NO DOUBT the next election will surprise you again.

Steve

 

Before the election:
A "progressive" is ahead in the never wrong polling, he's going to flip a seat in deep red territory. This is a Referendum on Trump.

After the election:
This is another moral victory, we shouldn't have done this well in a deep red area. Give us our partisipation trophy!!!
I never said this was a referendum on Trump. Whaaaa voter suppression, whaaaaa!!!!

This is the mental gymnastics we've seen from liberals on PF.

 

I'm not brainwashed. I don't pay attention to the media. I'm a numbers guy and I let numbers do the talking. It's true I detested the idea of a Trump presidency, but I also detested a Clinton one. I voted against both candidates. I deal in numbers, not partisan feelings. Not hope or fantasy, but hard numbers.

Now with Trump's approval numbers at 40% or below and half of all independents disapproving of him, the non-affiliated who can swing elections one way or the other. Here is some history, numbers to go by.

1970 Nixon 58% Minus 2 senate Plus 12 House seats

1974 Ford 42% Minus 5 senate Minus 48 House seats

1978 Carter 49% Minus 3 senate Minus 5 House seats

1982 Reagan 43% Plus 1 senate Minus 26 House seats

1986 Reagan 47% Minus 8 senate Minus 5 House seats

1990 Bush I 54% Minus 1 senate Minus 8 House seats

1994 Clinton 41% Minus 9 senate Minus 54 House seats

1998 Clinton 66% Senate no change Plus 4 House seats

2002 Bush II 63% Plus 1 senate Plus 8 House seats

2006 Bush II 37% Minus 6 senate Minus 33 House seats

2010 Obama 44% Minus 6 senate Minus 63 House seats

2014 Obama 41% Minus 9 senate Minus 13 House seats

 

Must remember in Libby land a near win gets you a participation trophy and a free meal at chucky cheese pizza

 

Yes and Hilliary is a shoe in

 

It's like they're walking a pasture with their eyes closed and then wondering why they keep stepping in large piles of steaming cow manure

 

Well.

Perhaps with all this winning your side is doing, you could suggest a new slogan for the Party!

How about:

"Democrats. We're not as big a loser as we were before."

 

Slightly less than 4 points.

 

DNC Hypocrisy act

 

To be fair, he did say AMERICANS, there are clearly two types, so Oberry had demonstrated!

 

As an economist, I too wrestled with the numbers having any credibility. In Neoclassical economics numbers are everything. However, Post-Keynesian economics provided me with a more rational point of view by looking at what the people want instead of the numbers which can easily be manipulated and often are manipulated.

Those 10 states where dem senators are at risk are states where most if not ALL gave Trump a 10-point advantage, and that's before the media dropped any pretense of being unbiased against a sitting president just taking office. Open threats of presidential assassination doesn't play well to the vast majority of RATIONAL people. It's just common sense. Where's the poll on that?

Brainwashed people always think they can think for themselves, and even when they are wrong they still justify their beliefs somehow. Losing elections doesn't seem to matter.

Steve

 

All of your pure hatred for the right wing doesn't mean your delusions are correct. Clearly you still don't understand the situation here. America is sick of destructive, bigoted, rioting, hateful progressives. The Democrats just keep losing.

But hey, at least you have you dreams.

 

Well at least you've got that going for you.

 

"Democrats. We win one out of 5"

 

I'll just end this with a "We'll see." I showed you what a low approval rating means when it comes to elections. One other thing to remember or perhaps if you wish, to take into account. It's not Trump vs. Clinton in 2018. 2018 isn't about two candidates with a 60% or there about unfavorable ratings. Clinton isn't in the picture anymore. 2018 will be solely about Trump and the candidates running in those states. The negative influence of Hillary Clinton won't be part of 2018 at all.

If I had to guess, 2018 will be about Trump and Trumpcare if it is passed. Remember 2010 was all about Obama and Obamacare which went against the wishes of the majority of Americans. Those Americans bit back. If repeal and replace is passed against the majority of Americans wishes, it will be a campaign issue along with President Trump.

It's way too far out to draw any firm conclusion or to offer any form of an accurate guess or prediction. All I'm saying is the numbers are against the GOP at this point in time. Who knows what will happen, the economy may be booming as November 2018 closes in and Trump might be above 50% approval. Anything can happen. But as of today, the numbers are against the GOP.

 

We had the same discussion during the 2016 campaign and you promised to give credit if I was right, that never happened. So much for what you say or believe. Like I said earlier, the NEXT election will surprise you again.

It isn't about Trump.

Steve

 

Anything is possible. This far out we are just shooting in the dark. You're right, I didn't expect Trump to win. He did and he deserves credit for that. I also think a Kasich or Rubio would have won by tens points or more. But I tend to look more at independents, the non-affiliated and toss Republicans and Democrats aside.

 

See, I forget these things..... Thanks. I know libs, and their affinity for Chucky's.....

 

I'm not sure how you can imply that the numbers are currently against the GOP unless you are citing only the bogus approval rating polls.

In recent days, the Democrats have insinuated that they will push the Russian issue all the way up to the 2018 election.

If this is true, and they actually follow this course of action, I would be willing to bet that the Democratic Party gets totally waxed in the 2018 elections.

Why? Because Blue Dog House Democratic candidates will not be able to swing any of Trump's base.

 

You're right, he and many dems are totally lost by the media's propaganda that the elections are about Trump. That's the way they want it and NEED IT to happen. But if they simply looked at elections since 2010, they might get a clue that the people have had it with the democrat party.

Steve

 

I like this chart!
It show you think that losing the -2nd- time, but by less, is something like a win!
That's the kind of funny you just can't make up!

 

We'll see.

 

Have you, or have you not seen the evil behind Trumpcare?

Paul Ryan's weak excuses such as Trump is just learning confirms Ryan is not fit to lead, nor does he realize the train wreck in slow motion right in front of his eyes.