Stephen Hawking Says Earth Is Under Threat and Humans Need to Leave

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Where would we go? Wouldn't we be taking a chance at this point? If we don't leave will we all die?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-hawking-says-earth-under-162219155.html

    Stephen Hawking Says Earth Is Under Threat and Humans Need to Leave
    Hannah Osborne,Newsweek Tue, Jun 20 10:22 AM MDT

    Stephen Hawking has warned that Earth is under threat and repeated his belief that humans must leave in the next few centuries if we are to survive as a species.

    “The Earth is under threat from so many areas that it is difficult for me to be positive. The threats are too big and too numerous,” he said, according to the Evening Express. “Our physical resources are being drained at an alarming rate. We have given our planet the disastrous gift of climate change. Rising temperatures, reduction of the polar ice caps, deforestation and decimation of animal species. We can be an ignorant, unthinking lot.”

    Hawking made the comments as part of his keynote address at the Starmus Festival in Norway. The event celebrates science and music, and aims to help the public get a better understanding of complex science.

    The professor has made similar dire warnings about the fate of mankind in the past, but in his latest comments, he addressed several specific issues he feels are the biggest threats and talked about how we might become a multiplanetary species.

    stephen hawking Earth extinction colonize

    Stephen Hawking sits onstage during an announcement of the Breakthrough Starshot initiative with investor Yuri Milner in New York City, on April 12, 2016. Hawking, the English physicist, warns humanity needs to become a multiplanetary species to ensure its survival.
    REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

    Hawking said that in the past, when humans have faced “similar crises” in terms of resources, they moved to new parts of the world: “Columbus did it in 1492 when he discovered the New World,” he said. “But now there is no new world. No Utopia around the corner.

    “We are running out of space and the only places to go to are other worlds. It is time to explore other solar systems. Spreading out may be the only thing that saves us from ourselves. I am convinced that humans need to leave Earth,” he said.

    The Milky Way is home to an estimated 100 billion planets. Of these, millions, if not billions, are “potentially habitable,” meaning they could have the right conditions to host life, including a stable climate that allows liquid water to exist.

    Hawking noted there are an estimated 1,000 stars within 30 light years of Earth, so if just 1 percent of these were Earth-like, we would have 10 candidate planets to move to. Hawking also said he believes humans will have developed the technology for interstellar travel within the next 200 to 500 years.

    “Human colonization on other planets is no longer science fiction. It can be science fact,” he said. “The human race has existed as a separate species for about two million years. Civilization began about 10,000 ago, and the rate of development has been steadily increasing. If humanity is to continue for another million years, our future lies in boldly going where no one else has gone before.”
     
  2. ecco

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    All of our eggs are in one basket. All Hawking is saying is we should put our eggs into as many baskets as possible. That way if all the eggs in this basket get wiped out, there are other baskets of eggs to propagate the human species.

    He is not suggesting that all humans leave earth.
     
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    We ain't going nowhere until we overcome our planet destroying ways. :rolleyes:
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right...

    ... she'll be glad when ever'body else...

    ... gets outta town.
     
  5. smallblue

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    Even if there was a nuclear holocaust, Earths basket would still be 1000 times nicer for human survival then any other known basket out there. . .not to mention having to move earths population which would not happen.
     
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    Well he's right. There are a number of ways that humanity as a species could be wiped out for good if Earth is indeed the only planet in the Universe with "humans" on it.

    Nasty solar flare, meteor strike, greenhouse effect, resource depletion, nuclear war, etc. Even if humans manage to survive all of that and somehow continue to live here the Earth will become uninhabitable in a few billion years when the Sun swells into a Red Giant rending planet Earth too hostile for current humans.

    Of course the logical short term solution is to solve the issues here on Earth that we can actually control such as resource depletion and combating greenhouse effects and having the restraint to not destroy ourselves via global nuclear war or something. But eventually no matter what this place will no longer be able to sustain humanity indefinitely. Modern man with our advanced technology requiring massive amounts of resources is simply too much for planet Earth to handle. The planet wasn't designed for modern man to live here indefinitely. We simply require more resources than the planet is able to provide for the long term.

    Planet Earth is a self sustaining ecosystem that works out just fine for animals and primitive human beings. The advent of modern technology coupled with a massive population increase has began to drain the planets resources faster than can be replenished.

    In layman's terms, on a pure non moral unbiased level, modern man is a destructive force on planet Earth that is operating outside of the way Earth's ecosystem was designed to operate. We basically kill the planet faster than it can heal itself and we as humans in the 21st century are the only species that are doing that. Whether or not this is all part of the "plan" and humans are "supposed" to advance and suck up the Earths resources and eventually leave this place or if we are an unwelcome ***** in the strain of evolution that has thrown the entire Earths ecosystem out of whack is up for debate.

    Either way we have to eventually leave here. The Planet wasn't designed for modern man to continue on our current path indefinitely. The Planet itself simply can't handle us in the long run. And whether or not it is even supposed to is a philosophical debate.
     
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    As a realist, I can guess humans in the future are going to suffer the consequences from all the warnings of all the issues we know about...and from some we don't yet know about. We have population growth, changing climate, basically little to no cash to take proactive measures...assuming humans would ever be proactive on a large scale. This tells me the pain and suffering are inevitable. The only questions remaining are if and how we mitigate some of the pain and whether or not we truly wish to preserve the human species? Any idea of relocating a 'few' humans to another planet will take many decades to achieve! IMO the idea of relocating thousands or millions of humans away from Earth is highly unlikely. Regarding ET's who might be 1000's of years ahead of Earth's humans surely go through this same scenario and we don't know those outcomes? Do they move on or do they become extinct...
     
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    What do you mean moving the earth's population?

    Humans settled the Americas without all of Europe's people leaving Europe.
     
  9. One Mind

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    I think we already have the means to explore the galaxy. The head of Skunk Works I think said we have the tech to take ET home. Perhaps the evidence for this are the trillions that are just missing and unaccounted for in the Pentagon?

    I saw some legit infared camera film recently showing triangle shaped craft traveling higher than our normal aircraft in our night skies. We may already have anti gravity craft as well. There was that case of several police depts. seeing and tracking a big, silent, hovering triangle craft in the Midwest a few years ago, one report among many over the years.

    Then there was that UK hacker who saw a list of space corp officers and lower ranks, along with a list of USS space craft. He also saw a photo taken from space of a seamless, no rivets cigar shaped craft with geodesic domes on the side and towards one end, which looked to be seamlessly incorporated into the craft. Like it was one huge mold with no separate parts riveted together.

    The UK hacker was looking for the evidence for zero point energy which he thinks we already have, but is being kept secret.
     
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    S.H. does not say anything.

    He can't.

    He is held as hostage and prisoner by that Bulgarian, who talks instead of him.

    Just a strong suspicion.

    What else?
     
  11. Cosmo

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    Professor Hawking communicates through a computer using a speech- generating device (SGD) or a voice output communication aid.
    It's a special device that either supplements or replaces speech/writing.
    No one is holding him "hostage/prisoner" or speaking for him.
    Your "strong suspicion" is pure nonsense.
     
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    About 15 years ago I watched a documentary.

    He hardly could do a sensible input even then.

    Are you about 15?

    It seems you like fairy tales and sci-fi tales?

    Do you believe everything you are told by TV?
     
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    What I "believe" is that you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Even though the SGD he uses may be a tedious affair his communication skills are better than yours.
     
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    As usual, no facts, no arguments, just spewing blind beliefs and insults.

    Kindergarten.
     
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    You're projecting.
     
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    Don't know about anyone else but I'm heading to Mars. My space ship is almost ready . . .

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    that's me setting the satnav.
     
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    Well, we should immigrate off earth. First to Mars via the moon then to the stars. We can lose people we just have to keep our base for technology. Not being callous but we can lose maybe half the population. Maybe more. If we lose enough critical knowledge held by individuals we'll have to regather. Hopefully it never gets near that point.
     

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