Missiles Launched From Iran Hit ISIS Terrorist Bases in Syria

They're probably pissed that were protecting ISIS too

 

Jamie Dimon and Lloyd Blankfein

 

I live in Cambridge.

I have a terrorism story for you.

I live in Cambridge and have many Iranian expats for friends. We have a community here who left in the revolution.
Lovely people.
It's student/tourist town and we get all nationalities here.

I lived through the IRA and islamobombers today but this particular little incident tickled my funny bone.

I was walking through Cambridge the road had been closed. Bomb scare. (Yawn). But here's the thing.
The "bombers" were American students and the target was an Iranian restaurent.



Ancient Enmities. In the time it has taken for my family to stop killing Japanese people on sight and welcome them as family members, the same time as it has taken my family to stop killing Germans on sight and taken them in as family members...

Iran and America has not been able to do so. So you are both ****wit countries.
America and North Korea. Same thing. ****wit countries. Grow up.

 

We are living during crazy times. For Iranian expats, most of whom are actually quite secular, the whole thing is doubly crazy. Wahhabi backed Arab sunnis extremists commit certain acts. The Iranian government, whom those who left Iran during the time of the revolution would have little reason to carry any brief for, has tense relations with the US. Yet, they are the ones being targeted for what is going on!

 

Iranians in America are not being "targeted" unless they are shills for the crazy mullahs in iran

And even then they are just not fully trusted

 

Any reason they should trust Americans, given your history of screwing with the Middle East?

 

Then who is to blame for their actions? This logical fallacy, of others being responsible for the actions of someone, eventually die if you chase them out far enough down the line.

 

Them

 

Iranians make up the overwhelming majority of visitors affected by Trump's travel ban, which exempts people from countries such as Wahhabi Arabia, Pakistan and Egypt among others which have actually committed terrorist acts on US and European soil. These Iranians are often the relatives of the Iranian Americans you refer to who want to visit their relatives in the US. Or, in some cases, are the kind of students who you claim sympathy for and who were involved in the Green movement etc.

In the meantime, most of the acts of violence against Muslims as a result of the prevailing Islamophobia is perpetuated by ignorant folks who couldn't careless (or wouldn't even understand) any political, religious, or ethnic distinctions and are often random acts against anyone who they perceive to be "middle eastern". Of course, Iranian Americans who are most assimilated, and whose appearance may make it hard for people to recognize them as being "different" might not be as affected by these actions as those Iranian Americans who might stand out and look "middle eastern" regardless of the socio-political background and beliefs between them. In other words, someone can actually be a "shill" of the regime and walk comfortably around in the US with no one knowing the person is necessarily Middle Easterner and experience very little problem of this sort. Another person might be the most vociferous and vocal opponent of the regime, but also look "Middle Easterner", and end up being targeted for abuse.

Then you have a host of sanctions which preclude punish even ordinary transactions with anyone living in Iran. An Iranian American family with relatives in Iran will find himself or herself affected by these measures regardless of his/her political views. Many of them, in fact, are actually committing crimes without knowing it since technically any transaction by a US person with someone living in Iran (with few exceptions for travel to the country and others which require getting special permits from OFAC) are prohibited. As a result of these sanctions against Iran, hundreds of Iranian Americans languish in American prisons even though only a very small fraction of them were engaged in activities (such as illicit arms trade etc) that would raise any genuine national security issues.

 

So, some people or entities are responsible for their own actions, but not others? This is a logical fallacy.

 

Do you mean iranians in America?

Most iranians who have escaped the mullahs are pretty sane people

But any iranians who do not trust America know where the exits are located

 

It wouldn't surprise me at all that Muslims feel uneasy, given the rise in incidents of attacks against Muslims everywhere.

 

There is far less violence against muslims in America than muslim violence against Americns

I truely am sorry for sane iranians caught up in the conflict between the US and the mullahs but that is unavoidable

I think its only a matter of time before our two countries are at war and be far more inconvienent for iranians on both sides of the Atlantic

 

In that case since more attacks are by muslims against innocent citizens you must understand why muslims are not trusted

 

There has been practically zero terrorist acts by Iranians on American soil. And we are talking about "Iranians", not generic "Muslims". Most of the terrorist acts, in fact, are committed by the kind of Wahhabis which aren't affected by any of the measures I mentioned and who hate Iranians as much as they hate Americans.

 

I am worried about more than just terrorist acts which iran

There is the issue of spying and sabotage should a conflict erupt between iran and America.

As long as the iranian government is building nuclear weapons and missile delivery systems and sponsoring terrorism around the world - not to mention fighting and kiling Americans during the Iraq conflict - they will be treated like an enemy country.

I am truely sorry the student rebellion in 2009 did not happen while a republican was in office instead of obama

Because maybe the mullahs would be out of power

 

the word responsible was used by another poster. Take your silly logic nonsense up with him. I'm just indicating who's purchasing the dancing whores in government.

 

Listen, I would regret it but wouldn't be annoyed by someone who says that he/she believe Iran and the US are on a collision course, acknowledges that the collision course revolves around Americas attempts to establish its hegemony thousands of miles away from its shores in the Middle East, doesn't sprout propaganda or ignorance about Iran to justify this course, and believes as a result Iran should be treated as an "enemy" state. I am the last person to deny that Iran and the US have been engaged in a good many low-level proxy fights, leaving some casualties for both sides, and are now facing off one another in various theaters. But I guess I get annoyed when I see people say things about Iran that I believe are ignorant. Otherwise, when Iran decided to stand up to the US and hegemonic plans, it should have been prepared for the consequences as well. You seem to be 'okay' with the US brandishing and even using its nukes, which I consider the greatest form of terrorism on a mass scale, but take nukes out of the equation and never use it as either a crutch or a lever, and I am willing to live with the rest of what the US can throw at Iran.

 

The word responsible originates with me. I'm the one making the case that blaming others for the actions of a person or entity is a logical fallacy. Everyone and every entity, is responsible for their own actions. When crazies say the TV told them to murder, we don't go arrest the TV.

 

So a fake story about a fake bomb is to hold all Americans responsible? You probably don't see the irony in your morality tale either.

 

Iranians are not being targeted so don't draw too much from this anecdote. It was a rant. We all know that not all Iranians, or Muslims, are terrorists. Every now and then a poster will mention what a nice Iranian (Egyptian, Iraqi, etc.) he met and conflate that into no Muslims are terrorists. The fact is that some Muslims are terrorists and security means we must watch many of them all the time, never quite knowing who is a 'bad' Muslim or a 'good' Muslim.

 

Just because you like to conflate Iranians with the Wahhabis and put them in one category as "Muslims" doesn't mean you have your categories in order. This nonsense is analogous to finding a fringe terrorist group among the Catholics running wild, with that terrorist group mostly focusing its acts of terrorism against (a) Protestants and (b) atheists. And then having an atheist country decide that it wants to protect itself against this terrorism and focusing much of its efforts at keeping a close watch on the Protestants, taking resources and attention away from looking at the fringe Catholics who are committing the acts in question.

If you put the entire Iranian community in the US under a microscope, you wouldn't gain anything in terms of security against terrorism. That is what makes it all ridiculous to talk about "good" and "bad" Muslims when the ones who have actually declared war on the US/West (not on a confined geopolitical arena, but far more generally) are the Wahhabis. And if that is the enemy, pretty much the last place to look for them is in Iran and among Iranians.

 

Everybody is responsible for themselves.
Whores in government are still whores and still responsible for their whoring actions.
I'm not passing the buck, just pointing out who the puppet masters are

 

No, you are saying the US is at fault for actions they did not take, and did not want to be taken. You are engaging in logical fallacies.

 

Many people lump "Christians" together as well, as you say, but Christians are able to live with that. They had no difficulty in doing that during "The Troubles" in Britain, or the predatory priests scandals. If you are a Muslim, as are the terrorists, you'll be lumped in with them as well. You're either going to have to accept that or risk converting to a less controversial religion. https://hormozshariat.com/

But the fact is whether Islamic terrorists are Wahhabis, Sunni, Shiite, or what have you, none are very impressive in terms of human rights and freedoms. So even if your brand of Islam is superior, and not the terrorist type, it still has some work to do.