Antifa Website Encourages ‘All Manner of Physical Violence’ Against Trump Supporters and Capitalists

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Republicans never have believed in elections, not really, haven't you all always been extremely vocal about being armed in case the elections are enough not to your liking? Even in the campaign Trump was talking about "2nd Amendment Solutions" if Hillary was elected. What if the election had gone the other way, would one Representative have been the only casualty by now?
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The Electors are free to vote as they wish then?
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense
     
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    You asked this already - thus, you know the answer.
     
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    Your comment is independent of your question.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And even Donald Duck would be better than Donald Trump
     
  7. TOG 6

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    You only have the DNC -- and thus, yourself - to blame.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If I may return to the topic, I have to ask why all of you 2nd amendment types are so critical of Antifas when they're doing what seems to be just exactly what all of you have been saying the 2nd Amendment exists to facilitate, that is, violently resisting a government they disagree with.

    Are you so against them because the ideology they base that resistance on disagrees with yours?
     
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    The alternative was truly frightening...

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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And anyone who voted for Donald Trump. (Go ahead, tell me THAT has no relevance and didn't affect the election)
     
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    For them, it is the first step.
    For us, the last.
    Duh.
     
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    So long as you concede your responsibility - which you did. Thank you
     
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    The DNC, literally, chose to run the only person who could not beat Trump.
    Amazing, isn't it?
     
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    They are violently opposing citizen's free speech and assembly rights.

    They are only indirectly opposing the lawful government through their attacks on the citizens who support that lawful government.

    It's not the same thing at all.
     
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  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I see, so if they were to be actually assassinating members of the government they opposed, like the guy that shot the Congressmen at the ball game recently, that would be the type of anti-government violence the 2nd amendment conservatives approve of? (Given, of course, that the government has done something they disapprove of enough to, in their opinion, justify violence.)
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So you concede that you too approve of "all manner of physical violence" against your opponents, just that you wish to do it AFTER it's been demonstrated that NO democratic process is going to accomplish what you wish. In other words, "if nobody goes along with us, THEN we'll start killing people"
     
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    Just like in 1775.
    Compare this to -your- people, who started burning looting and shooting people at baseball practice the day after an election that didn't go their way.
     
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    Not even close to the same.

    Antifa engages is and promot
    Wrong.

    It is not anarchists who are causing the violence at protests. It is COMMUNIST/anarchists. Or anarcho communists which is the same thing.

    This has been proven many times in the past. But it bears proving again.

    The people causing the violence are typically antifa which is in turn almost always anarcho communists as demonstrated openly and repeatedly by the symbolism of the flag they rally around.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalist_symbolism#Black_and_red_bisected_symbolism.

    Another variation:http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODk3WDE2MDA=/z/1SoAAOSwuxFYubIc/$_1.JPG



    You see this flag or a variation of it time and again where such violence is initiated.











    Now of course before you start evading facts by claiming they are anarcho communists and not true communists remember that anarchy means belief in no government and no authority while communism is an ideology of absolute authority of the state. In other words the two cannot co exist and even antifa and the fools on the left are aware of that fact.

    They call it anarcho communism rather than what the ideology really is which is simply communism. They do this for two basic reasons. The first is that many believe that it is a two layered approach to their goal. Much like putting up a new building where an older one already stands. You have to tear the old one down first and they view anarchy as a means of tearing down the old while communism is the means of constructing the new state. The second reason is that it makes it easier for the regressive political types of the left wing ( especially the media ) to excuse the violence because they can simply explain it away as anarchist rather than calling it what it really is which is communist and since communism IS a far left wing ideology it is in fact left wing violence.

    Your comment about the right having no merits to their argument is laughable even if some what true. It is laughable because no one who is liberal or regressive ( progressive ) or left leaning in general has any business criticizing the right for what HEY are the accomplished masters of.

    While the right may do it SOMETIMES as well it is overwhelming the left wing which avoids debate or discussion or argument by simply labeling and walking away declaring victory. This is done by calling anyone who disagrees with anything a racist or sexist or misogynist or homophobe or islamaphobe or what ever label seems convenient. This is because regressives on the left have no merit to their arguments and they know it.

    Antifa is the absolute glaring proof of this fact once again as ANYONE who even remotely disagrees with them is a fascist or nazi and they perpetrate, incite and encourage violence against such people.

    Your post is an epic and proven failure and an exercise in blatant hypocrisy
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    There is a BIG difference between the governments of what we would call "autonomous regions" and groups of armed and violent individuals representing nobody but themselves, and oftentimes not even them. One good example of the first is the late 1700's Virginia House of Burgesses and/or the Town Meetings of New England in the Colonial era, and examples of the second are the Michigan Militia and/or the Bloods and Crips, the Hell's Angels, and the Mafia.
     
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    You being such an expert in such things made similar + rational objective observations " about Hillary winning the election.
     
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    I looked at that site. I think it is just what it appears to be. It's a leftist website.
     
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    You're right - the actions of the people in 1775 are not remotely comparable to the nonsense we see from the infantile left today.

    Rather than exhaust the political process before engaging in violence as the final option, why did your people immediately resort to, and continue to use, violence?
     
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    I agree with what you shared. To take it a step further, I wish these people realized the noose they are putting around their own necks. Violent revolution with the intent of having a system that they agree with in control is replacing one master for another. Read Howard Zinns book on the Peoples History of the United States (among others) and you will see that our system has always been setup to favor those at the top of the food chain. Democrat or Republican, Conservative or Liberal are all just labels to make us feel empowered that allow us to feel like we belong to a group or ideology that really matters. The only true way we can be freedom and for liberty to truly flourish is if we stop relying on government and our so called leaders to save the day. Limited and decentralized government, that allows for more power and control to the states and the citizens is the only way out of this.
    If Hillary had won the election, none of this Antifa nonsense would be going on. But again, this is the stupidity of these people. Because they hate Trump, but don't understand the history of Hillary and if they did would realize they play into the hands of those who would enslave them under the guise of Washington, government programs and laws will solve their problems. It won't and history shows that it never has worked, beyond a short duration of time. Violence on either side will only justify more control and less freedom. The whole idea them using the idea of anarchy is absurd as well, because true anarchy is the absence of a Master or Ruler. They do want a ruler and communism and socialism always had a leader.
    We have a problem on both sides of the isle and we need to realize that to make this country truly great for the first time, is by states and communities to working together for the advancement of our society. President Trump is only one man and I don't believe he expects to solve all the issues. It takes all of us using our ideas, hard work and benevolence to better this country. Liberty cannot thrive under oppression of malevolent authority, we have to understand the limitations of government and it's potential power for oppression and exploitation.
     
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    Good post. Sadly, some people don't want to be free-like these commies.

    Violence is NEVER justified. And incitement to violence is not constitutionally protected.

    The left pushes this constantly. What is to be done? Whats the proper response?

    These lefty freaks obviously can't handle speech.
     
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    The proper response is to arrest anyone who commits an actual crime.

    But this crowd is operating in areas where they don't have a great deal of push back from law enforcement.

    So if they operate in areas where they are just destroying the property and businesses of liberals, there will likely become a tipping point where the community starts to shatter.
    Natural responses will dictate the outcomes.
     
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