EU leaders agree to extend Russia sanctions over Ukraine

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    EU 'leaders' are insane morons.
    Russia and Russians are laughing about leftist european 'leaders'.

    What sanctions of EU 'policymakers' achieved until now?

    - Huge damages for european manufacturing, construction industry, agrarian sector etc. etc. etc.
    - Russia effectively rebuild own industry, supports own manufacturing, established no-western-imports program
    - At least 1 millions jobs were lost in the West due to sanctions
    - For example many German big construction DAX corporations lost projects in Russia, fire people and are nearly bankrupt.
    - Almost all Russians stay behind Putin and became very patriotic
    - Russia will never accept a 'democracy' a la EU or USA
    - After Putin Russia will be an Extreme Nationalist State with high animosity to EU and USA
    - A new Russian Zar ( not Romanow ) in alliance with the State Orthodox Church and Partially Theocracy in country
    - The probability of WWIII is very high
    - The conflict between the West and Russia will last at least 30 - 40 years until EU became transformed to United European Caliphates, hundred millions of white refugees flee to Russia from civil war in USA and islamized EU, China became the World Power N 1.
    EU is currently run by know-nothing and can-nothing corrupted carrier politicians who perform genocide against own folks and replace them by IQ 60 'refuges' who can easy accept insane socialist utopia and are very light to manage due to their illiteracy and corruption.
    EU is a prison for folks run by leftist non-elected poor educated liberals


    EU leaders have officially confirmed a decision to extend sanctions against Russia over Crimea and Eastern Ukraine for another six months, the President of the European Council Donald Tusk announced during a European leaders summit in Brussels.

    https://www.rt.com/news/393639-eu-extends-russia-sanctions/
     
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    When I read this, I get a laugh attack ... so much nonsense in a single post is already record-breaking!
    But OK ... keep your American Red Neck perspective on things that are so far from reality that the center of the Milky Way (our own galaxy if you don't know this) is closer to the Earth than your words to the truth!

    I have no desire to go in dispute with you about to show you the real facts, because hopeless and wasted time, but interesting is this here in detail:

    "After Putin Russia will be an Extreme Nationalist State with high animosity to EU and USA"

    Yep, because Trump does its best until now to do so with Russia gate on one hand and with his actions in Syria on the other hand ... right? :roflol::fingerscrossed:
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NATO as an entity is like children at play. I despair at what the West has become. It's humiliating in the extreme.
     
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    But I find it interesting if the EU is now really serious about a purely European military cooperation begins to get on the way ... without the Americans to which one is according to own statement of trump yes any longer not fully as allies ,

    Well, you are Brit as far as I know and it is true and will surely come with the Brexit as an answer ...
    Only I find it strange, if the gentlemen of the faction "NATO is sh ** and must be abolished" ... partly to be upset about this pure European measure and want to prevent it! Already a good piece of hypocrisy at work, right ... even not directly addressed to you?
     
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    So-called Russia gate is a lie invented by Deep State and lying presstitutes. A Friendship with Russia is better as WWIII
     
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    Better Trump & Putin work together on establishing of Freedom and Friendship as to support obsolete NATO which continuously looking for new enemies and tax money.
     
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    I think it's a mistake that Russia is so active in offering friendship. Strong do not need friends. We do not need an EU or USA. We need money and technology.
     
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    I am the last of a new War War wants, but honestly ... Trump has opened the fridge to the relations with Russia more than Hillary did before!
     
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    Does not sound logical- country without technology and money can not be called strong.
     
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    The EU is sinking faster than the Titanic and they want to piss off Russia even more. Don't be surprised what happens next.
     
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    Well, fairly speaking - RF has decent budget, and not sure what exactly you mean by "technology", but if you mean military tech - actually has a pretty modern army. If you mean civil technologies, well - that depends on what and where is used by government, corporations and lesser business enterprises, and varies among them, as well as it does in other countries.

    Does not makes political and economic isolation a good idea, but actually country can survive such circubstances. Pretty much RF is more than one country in it's all nature, we are a federation, after all.
     
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    He was forced to do this. The deep state is the un-elected power that rules the USA. To survive politically and to prove that he is not a "puppet of Putin", Trump has to be hostile to Russia... and kiss the ass of the Israel Lobby.
     
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    Russia invested money in weapons. It is enough to look at the characteristics of the T50 and F22 to understand that the T50 is better for almost all indicators. Russia accounts for 1.7% of the world economy, but has the second most powerful army, space technology, managed to independently make MC21, managed to independently to continue drilling in the Arctic, to build a fleet of nuclear icebreakers etc. Therefore, Russia has technology, but lags behind in matters of civil technology.
     
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    Caliphate and death of european industry.
     
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    It occurred to me after I posted the above that NATO is very similar to present-day Washington in that the Dems are like children who've had their lollipops/popsicles taken away.
     
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    I would question 2nd powerful army, look to the south and to China! China could amass more troops than entire population of the Russ Fed.
     
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    As I expected - you do not have any arguments. It's like a hysterical. :party:

    By the way, is Germany already paid off with Trump? ... As reported by The Sunday Times, US President Donald Trump demanded that the German Chancellor Angela Merkel pay 300 billion pounds sterling for services rendered by NATO.
     
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    Russia has a lot in what ahead of our neighbors in the world. Of the obvious - the engines for space rockets, nuclear power plants, eye surgery and telecommunications. Russian, traveling abroad, amicably groan: the Internet and cellular communications in other countries are much worse and much more expensive than in Russia.
    For example, Rosatom begins to displace Westinghouse not only in Europe. But also in the American market. Or do you think that nuclear power is less technological than an iPhone? (By the way, the iPhone also lost to the Russian Yotaphone. The Germans did the video - comparing the result, it's on YouTube) ....

    Read. Below is about specific projects and discoveries of modern Russia. http://ruxpert.ru/Достижения_России
     
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    You arent actual anymore.

    The EU is doing great lately. Since Macron won in France, the old Franco-German alliance is back online.
     
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    The sanctions are having impact, Russia is suffering from the restrictions on their trade. I think falling oil prices are having a greater detrimental effect, but it is hard to tell in such an opaque economy and I doubt our more Russophile posters can give us an accurate assessment. What is the actual unemployment rate, how is public assistance, is the economy doing fine?

    I know the Russians are patriotic, Putín is a hero, their military quite impressive, but how does the average Ivan feel about how things are going? Is he pleased over the quagmire in Syria, impressed by that smokey aircraft carrier they had to tow to Syria? How does Ivan feel about the cutbacks and restrictions of social, education, housing and medical services? All for the good of the nation? Is Crimea worth it?

    We really don't know, it could be Russians are 100% behind Putín, it is said he has high approval ratings and the regime has zero tolerance for any opposition.

    Maybe the sanctions have negligible effect, Russia is doing fine and they're really proud of their military accomplishments.
     
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    You do realize that Merkel ignores Trump? That she brushed off his "demands" and uses his idiocy to mke him an outside enemy to creater internal stability.
     
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    Their space engins are from the 50th, unreliable and outdated. Our Ariane V is more powerful and almost 100% reliable. Our Ariane V also has far more contracts.

    Their nuclear powerplants? Designs of the 50th, highly unstable and insecure. Telecommunication? lol

    Russia is a 3rd world country. This and nothing more.
     
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    Of Internet this "union" will not be distributed. This "union" is a union of bloggers and feeble-minded journalists. The EU now needs an alliance to get rid of the savages. But for this, the leadership of the EU countries should have a brain that they do not have.
    The virus of tolerance is the most dangerous virus. He destroys the ability to think.
     
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    This topic is laughable at best.

    Fact is, Germany doesnt need trade with russia. We are richer than ever before and our economy is booming. This means we can afford sanctions. We want bring Ukraine under our Umbrella.

    In other word, there is zero need for us to trade with russia.
     

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