I hope a GOD exists but I am not holding my breath!

Helen Wambach Ph. D. began a fascinating study around 1965.

She regressed 1088 volunteers four thousand years in time under hypnosis.

The recorded their impressions of what they perceived as past lives......
and the data so impressed her that she became a firm believer in reincarnation.

Her second book dealt entirely with what people viewed happening BETWEEN their past lives as humans.......
and we all played a role in choosing our parents, family, and situation in life........
we did this for many reasons but a huge one was to gain empathy for others.

I believe that within fifty years race relations may be positively impacted by the implications of her research.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-past-life-regression-under-hypnosis.384268/

What is that white guy doin in my head? (Past life regression under hypnosis).

 

It is interesting to note that one of the most ethical decisions over the past seventy years was
supported far more so by Atheists and Agnostics and Skeptics in Israel than by the religious community in that nation.

I am referring to the airlifting of thousands of Black Falasha Jews from Ethiopia to Israel to make them citizens.

 

hold your breath long enough and you will find out for sure.

 

AboveAlpha has actually had four or five brushes with death........
but he is among the eighty percent of people who have no memories of an
out of body experience..... life review... .and meeting deceased relatives, friends or
even previously deceased pets.........

 

It can be dangerous to give me really, really, really
good advice like this!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-3

 

Hope is a big incentive to move forward in life I guess. Another incentive would be purpose. When I was once in your position, I decided to grab hold of those two things and run with them I found in my searching the evidence I need and it became apparent it is all around me. I live in a world that is hopeless and full of mockers....perhaps that's how they fill their void of hopelessness. I am a little guarded in how I share my hope due to that sad fact. Something you might consider, my God never changes. He is always the same. You can always entertain doubt but that never changes Him. He is a solid foundation for life, but a "Rock of offense" to many who always insist on being in control. That is a fruitless effort.

 

Something you might try as a suggestion. Do you have NetFlix? If so here is something to entertain..... "Is Genesis History?" by Dr. Del Tackett . It might be an alternative to what you have come to think.

 

This post is interesting and enlighting, but I'm curious, what will change if we go to a paperless currency in your opinion? You mention Bitcoin. Do you believe that Bitcoin will be the adopted as the new currency or do you think we'll use the system we have today, just without physical money?

 

(Apologies if this has been said already, I didn't read the entire thread)

This is a common point of confusion. A/gnosticism speaks to what you claim to know. A/theisim speaks to what you believe.

If I ask you if you believe that a god exists and you say I don't know. My response would be to say something, like "I'm not asking what you know, I'm asking what you believe".

Here, let me put it like this.

Take the less controversial subject of intelligent alien life.

If I asked you if you believed that intelligent aliens exist, I suspect, given your respect for the scientific method, you might respond, I know of no evidence for intelligent life. If I pressed you and asked you if you believed intelligent life is probable, you might answer that, given what yo know about biology that you believe that it is possible.

Thus we are left with several possibilities



At the very center of this chart, you could have something like "I don't care if a god exists and I've never given it any thought."

Thus I suspect you are some form of agnostic atheist. You probably don't like the idea of being thought of as a person who is closed minded and isn't open to the idea that a god could exist. This is why most people don't like being called an atheist because they don't like being thought of as gnostic atheist.

 

I am hoping that a more Theistic version of Evolutionary Theory will
get us thinking that there may well be an infinitely old intelligence and / or Intelligence......
that has been planning and choreographing Big Bang type events.... from something like
eternity in the past............

.... One major implication to this would be that this being / Being / beings / Beings could be so
emotionally attached to us.......
one of the weakest but influential creations.........
that our lives may have something like infinite value to this creator....... / Creator...

So...... if our lives have infinite value to "G-d" then.......
since our lives can be divided down into units of time......
our time... is actually rather precious to G-d.?????

I have ran into a program that I consider quite brilliant........
much like the programmer who made it.......

Please notice post #32 here.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rty-volunteerism-hour-or-dollar.475481/page-2

 

Actually... AboveAlpha claims to be one of the
NSA - CIA profile creators who was asked to meet
with a species of alien life in order to work out something of a
treaty with them............

AboveAlpha has warned people........
do NOT invite alien contact........
extreme intelligence can correspond with a lack of empathy / compassion.......

We humans appeared like chickens to the aliens he met.........
When we see chickens.... we think chicken nuggets..... he said the aliens he met were like that too......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...alks-about-release-of-e-t-data-part-2.411555/

Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

 

Figures, I use an example using aliens and I pick the one guy who's met aliens....LOL

I remain skeptical myself.

 

I don't blame you.....
but it sure does seem to me that String Theory implies that we are very unlikely to be the
most well informed and most technologically advanced species in the universe / Multiverse.....

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

OK let ME put it this way....

I do not just guess or hope or believe or think or whatever that ET is a reality.

I KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY ET EXISTS!!

Why?

Because one time a long time ago as I run a Team of U.S. Military 20 somethings I took a JOB that had a NEED TO KNOW.

I wish I never had that need to know.

The issue is so complex most people would stroke out just knowing about it.

AA

 

I have not come to think anything.

I am talking about hardcore math.

In all of human history there has NEVER been one occasion where the MATH said something was possible or imossible and was later proven wrong.

NEVER!!

AA

 

Thank you for the excellent chance to make a related point....

The thrust of that post wasn't to debate the existence of ET, but the existence of a god/s and really the larger question of the value of belief and how we attain knowledge.

The position you are in is the same position Jodie Foster's character was in (ironically, given the subject we're discussing) when she met an alien life form in the movie Contact. She had seen with her own eyes, yet she lacked any evidence. She had belief and knowledge of what had transpired but lacked the means to prove it. To everyone else, she had gone nowhere and the project they spent billions on, was a total waste of time and resources.

Now I ask you, sir. Is that enough that I should be convinced? Someone else's belief and claim of knowledge? Now, please, don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I have no reason to disbelieve you and I'm not calling you a liar. I'm simply asking, should your experiences without evidence convince me? Should I abandon all skepticism and embrace what you claim to know? If I abandon my disbelief, not in aliens, as I am convinced they probably exist, but the question of whether they are here AND that you have witnessed evidence enough to convince you.

Can I know claim knowledge?

With utmost respect, I remain skeptical of your claims, not to impune your character, but because if I believe you what is my justification? How can I deny anything that other people claim to have knowledge and belief about? Please, tell me, how is what you've claimed any different than a person who claims their god demands something of me?

 

And on that note I thank you for your statement in one of our discussions that
an intelligence composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy........
cannot be ruled out as a possibility........
If I remember correctly.... you stated it more strongly than that as well..... I may come across that again one of these days!

 

I had a really strange experience last week that I am still trying to make sense of........
24 - 27 hours after a local infant passed on.......
I was working less than a kilo-meter away at the school and it sure seems to me that
I was given some sort of psychic download of information........?????????

Three year old Colton Burpo learned an astonishing amount in the few minutes that he had
a brush with death...... I suspect that a full day in the afterlife little Leo could become wiser than
the greatest intellect on earth.............. and it seems like he may have passed me some
rather critical information on how a potential crisis should be handled........

I have been given an answer on a possible economic problem to confront America and the world,
perhaps within months..............

This is far, far, far, far, far above my security clearance level and pay scale........
the background information to it is here:


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tia-israel-and-jordan.506627/#post-1067660049

 

Sir.... are you up for a little Harvard, vs Yale..... .vs MIT
vs..... red necks from the back woods of Nova Scotia?

On Unified Field Theory of Modern World Problems and one to 4.3 TRILLION US hitting the market........
and how to divert much of that in such a way that the greatest economic boom of all history takes place.......
....(with the possible exception of the two centuries just before the flood of Noah... when we had people
even more gifted than Dr. Albert Einstein living to be several centuries in age).............
On the down side......... .my plan will NOT result in a major depopulation as planned by so many Liberals........
and brilliant investors like Mr. George Soros...........
If anybody believes that a major depopulation is needed to save the world.......
they may wish to oppose my plans.........

 

I no longer believe in the Virgin Birth Theory.

The Apostle Paul doesn't even mention it once which
is hard to imagine if it had been a common teaching during the time of his ministry.

Actually....... if the most Ancient Intelligence is composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy the rapidity and quality of thought and planning by that Intelligence....... should be so far beyond the computers that we will invent within a century that the best we could invent in Artificial Intelligence would be like a baby compared with a being composed of fundamental energy....... who, one would think,......... should be connected to dark matter and dark energy and energy from quantum vacuum...... etc., etc.,

 

These intellectual posts I find some interest in. Just got back from a visit to the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter in Kentucky. I find that those that designed , funded,and did the research for those projects every bit as intellectually astute as those that deny God. In fact, they state your case as well as their own. The difference is, their thesis depends on a Genesis and a belief in God, an intelligent Creator requiring "faith".. Those opposed believe adding an infinite amount of time when questions arise is the basis of their faith.
Just a few of the items I found intriguing was the fact soft tissue remnants have been found in dinosaur bones which would be impossible beyond a period of time well short of a million years.
Sedimentary layers in the walls of the Grand Canyon are remarkably laid down in straight, horizontal lines between which there are claimed to be millions of years between their deposits. Problem is, this would not allow for the erosion that would have definitely have taken place in that given time. Also....where these layers are given to upheavel, they bend rather than fracture which seems to be evidence they remained in a moistened state and were laid down in rapid secession due to a very cataclysmic event, such as a worldwide flood. The argument is there and it is good.
Species of "like kinds" have never reproduced beyond their kind. Genetically impossible. I choose to believe what these scientists have found. Man was intelligent from the beginning as he was created in the image of God. With that in mind I find it very easy to understand the "virgin birth". Ancient men did incredible things. Technology is enhanced over time and experiment. It is not a reflection of intelligence. Wisdom is a gift.

 

With all due respect, I want to ask you a question....

Do you believe in a young earth and are looking for evidence to support that conclusion, or are you not sure and you are posting the evidence of a young earth because you find it intriguing?

If it's the latter, I'm happy to spend a few minutes and explain why the explanations given by the creation museum are wrong and explain why the earth cannot be less than billions of years old.

I just don't want to spend the time, if you aren't listening.

 

I do listen Econ. I believe you start with the premise, however, that if you ever run into a roadblock.....you will add a billion years. That science is never ending and never proven. It is taken on faith. I start with the premise "In the beginning, God...." It too is taken on faith. I find it all intriguing. I find my mind and thoughts so intriguing that I can't believe they came about by chance and without purpose.

 

I came up with an interesting thought experiment that imo illuminates this subject

Lets postulate that some highly intelligent space aliens are responsible for creation of the universe, or they just created life on earth as a kind of highly exotic "ant farm", sort of experiment, or maybe some beings(s) created the world as some sort of elaborate simulation... what ever.... but some how our experience of life derives from some other non-god intelligence.

So, in that case, there exists this other intelligence who is running our world as an ant farm sort of experiment. Now, try to image running an ant farm and caring about the sex lives of individual ants... and wanting those ants to worship, and if the ants did not correctly worship you, then would get angry with the individual ants and find a way to eternally torture them. Doesn't it all sound too ridiculous?
If I knew someone with that attitude toward his ants.... I would think he was totally bonkers. I mean... you build an ant farm and expect the ants to worship you??????

 

Ironicly, holding your breath is the only way to find out