GAY TEACHER READS HOMOSEXUAL STORY TO 3RD GRADERS

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  1. Questerr

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    To have being the goalpost-moving qualified you have added.

    It is normal for human populations "to have" homosexuals in the population, but in the total human population being homosexual is abnormal.
     
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    Which is exactly why I've pointed out that monogamy and waiting until marriage to have sex are "deviant" and "abnormal" sexual behaviors by objective measure.
     
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    And judging from statistics it won't be too long before divorce is the norm, with marriage being deviant behaviour.
     
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    Being left handed is not usual in humans. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to marry?
     
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    100% correct.
     
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    Stop falling into the Christofascist trap that "normal" and "abnormal" are the same as "good" and "bad".

    They are statements of statistical variance. Nothing more.

    You realize I'm a supporter of LGBT rights, yes?
     
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    School is more than reading and math. Kids need age appropriate discussions/lessons about diversity and tolerance. Well functioning adults have to find a way to live with our differences. That is a fact.
    I'm just not sure if this story was a good choice. Take out homosexual and insert race, a belief system, nationality ect...and it can easily be seen as not appropriate for third graders. I might be splitting hairs but that's how I see it.
     
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    Depends on how it was taught. If the teacher was openly advocating or proselytizing any of your examples, rather than simply explaining, then that's when I would have a problem. The same with religion; by all means teach kids about religions in general, but never preach to them.
     
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    I am stating that it is a continuum between nature vs. nurture
     
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    How the hell do you choose it and are born that way at the same time?
     
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    Are you sure he is a he, or does "he" value himself as a she. You may be insulting the hell out of "him"!!!!!

    BTW IMO sexualizing kids of this age is porno.
     
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    I don't think kids should be sheltered from homosexuality. I also don't think homosexuality should be presented to kids in a fairy tale with two kings living happily ever after.
     
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    Who is being 'sexualized'? I understand you Americans are prone to sudden outbursts of hysteria and hyperbole, but really?:
     
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    There are cases for both. This isn't that confusing.
     
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    Reading a book about gay people to my little kids without my permission does affect me. I don't want them learning that crap in school.

    I will allow gays to talk about gay marriage in school when we can talk about God, Jesus and Christianity in school but they don't want that because God offends them so they cry and it is not allowed in schools. They are the most unfair people ever. They can do whatever they want as long as they are ok with it and everyone else just has to go along with what the crybabies want. I'm tired of it.

    I will never support gay marriage nor will I support teachers forcing it down the throats of 10 year old kids who are not there to learn about Gay Marriage. This is a load of crap. Liberals need to stop forcing us to live in their world. I am so glad Trump is president. Now we just need to remove as many liberal judges as we can and make America GREAT again.
     
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    Again, reading a children's book about other types of families is nothing even resembling social studies, its just basic knowledge about society for kids. Knowing basic stuff about society helps you better be able to navigate the world socially. A lot of things that we assume everyone eventually learns or that they will eventually learn from their family, many actually don't. I don't see the harm of 5 minutes of a children's book.
     
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    You are part of the problem then. You obviously see nothing wrong with people reading books about Gay Marriage to a bunch of little kids. How little do they have to be before you have a problem with it?
     
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    Would you say the same thing if the children's book had God in it? Why are we not allowed to talk about God in schools? If it's a children's book then it should be ok by your logic.
     
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    Well your side is sure forcing it down the throats of 10 year old kids. Your side is forcing it down everyone's throats with Rainbow fries, Gay Pride T-shirts at Target and the many tv shows that have gay people in them.

    If you want to talk about Gays at school why not make it ok to discuss God to? It's only fair. We can't because your side cries if God's name is mentioned in school.

    I don't want my kids to be forced to listen to this crap just because the teacher supports Gay's and wanted to force his political views on them.
     
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    And left handedness is objectively abnormal deviant behavior as well, but I don't hear a lot of call for it to be banned or claims that it is a choice.
     
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    Do computer bugs have 6 legs and wings?
     
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    I don't support abnormal sex. It is clearly normal to wait. I did it. I waited for 29 years and I am happily married to my wife. She is the only woman I will ever have sex with. It's not that hard to do or understand.

    It is because many try to have as much sex as they can that many children now live in broken families or with single moms. That is becoming normal. Do you support that?

    I have to go to work now so I will respond back to you when I get off work.
     
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    Why do you so hate liberals that you would take the obviously irrational and childish step of blaming all liberals for this one person's act?
     
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    Actually it is abnormal. Being a small percentage is the very definition of abnormal. Abnormal is an objective value, but many people try to put positive or negative spins upon the word. Think about this. For the religious miracles are good things but they are definitely abnormal occurrences.
     
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    Legal rights to begin with. Without the law establishing the legal relationship of spouses, then legal precedence would allow the parents of a person to make medical decisions when they are incapable instead of the spouse. There are many areas of law where having a record of the legal relationship would make all the difference in the world.
     

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