Trump ends decades-long White House tradition of celebrating Ramadan

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  1. Ninian

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    You clearly missed the "people take treats and pray" part.
     
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    No that's actually the part I was asking about
     
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    If you need more detailed explanation - this is not exactly Christian tradition, it evolved from the worship of ancestors, and ended up intermixed with Paskha tradition under belief of spirits of dead temporarily returning to the world to celebrate together with living the resurrection of Jesus Christ. On monday of Holy week was presumed dead visited living, and on thursday living visited dead, and since nowadays majority of people have 5/2 work schedule, the visiting of graveyard got pushed to the weekend.

    You may read more there, but you'll need to translate it with Google:
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Светлая_неделя_в_славянской_традиции
     
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    Good. Now lets end the tradition of Christmas and any other religious holiday practice by these politicians and their offspring.

    They can do it in private but I am sick of them playing their horse and pony shows on the tax payer dime.
     
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    Made up BS. There was no such 2 century old tradition at the whitehouse. They just make this **** up as they go along.
     
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    YAY Once again I am proud of Trump for doing the right thing. Islam which is Sharia Law advocates hate, murder, inhumane treatment of women, and pedophilia and therefore should not be recognized as a religion of peace. If leaders don't quit with the political correctness and stop them from infiltrating their countries, it will be the ruination of the world. Playing footsy with them just sends mixed messages and only advances their agenda. So great job for that and also for not bowing to the Saudi King like Obama did.
     
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    No one should respect or acknowledge a so called religion that advocates hate and murder to all who don't worship and think as they do. One that says each man can have four NINE year old girls as wives. One that allows murdering their wives by simply claiming they committed adultery and he wouldn't even have to appear in court. That's not a religion that deserves respect. If so, might as well bow down and worship all murderous thugs and pedophiles in prison.
     
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    Yeah that would certainly be the case IF this was an actual religion and not some hate mongering ideology that advocates murder to all infidels who don't think as they do, inhumane treatment of women, pedophilia allowing men to have four nine year old girls as wives, stoning to death women just because they get sick of looking at their face which they themselves probably maimed.

    https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...=yhs-mozilla-002&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002

    http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html
     
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    I have a couple links as well:

    https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...=yhs-mozilla-002&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002

    http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html
     
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    Yeah, all well and good.
    But somehow, the constant (and I mean constant) intolerance, anger, subjugation, attacks on people not of their own kind around the globe, and the very lack of a huge push back from the so-called "moderate Muslims" --- that all kind of dampens our zeal for celebrating this religion. Because it has not done what it must do, and that is to vehemently denounce the hatred and the violence and their clergy and people to take very meaningful measures to do away with it. Instead, the Palestinians and the Iranians and many other Arab-Muslim nations vote in the most radical parties or leaders. And the West cowers before them, time and again. And instead vilifies Israel.
     
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    Our muslim clergy and population have pretty hostile position towards ISIS, for example.

    I know that majority of our people are not arabs, and only somewhat 1/5 of citizens are muslims.. But still - a big and notable community, that somehow has no support for radicals.

    I know history went way differently in other countries, and gave quite different results, but.. Don't draw a cross on Islam - pretty much fine religion, as long as people don't load each other with bullshιt to excuse one or other atrosity.
     
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    Agreed.

    Seemed like a pretty "far out" reason to be angry against Trump so a did a google as to anything Obama missed.

    The way politics works now days, any time I see claims like this that seem ridiculous at face value, either from The Right or The Left, I do a quick search to see if they have heald their own side to the same stringent activity and found this on line 2.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-issues-statement-marking-ramadan-no-easter-statement-year

    While I don't think either story is anything worth caring about, the hypocrisy of both parties has gotten so extreme that threads similar to this one have popped up more and more as an attack to that Presidents "morals/values/etc"

    I think post like this are a piece of the massive "rhetoric" problem we have in the US. Now days it is "If you don't do what I say then you are evil/mean/racist/bigoted/etc.

    Thankfully I have DEFINITELY, ABSOLUTELY, 100% noticed that the average citizen is pushing back against those being hyper PC
     
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    i dont see trump defiling the muslim feast either, all he does is not partake in it
    the only matter of religious tolerance that needs to happend is giving muslims have the right to have this feast in the first place? (without being forced to give them a day off for it)

    if we had holidays and special crap for every religion on the planet there wouldnt be any days left to do anything else
    whats makes islam better then other minotiry religions ?
     
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    Trump did send out a statement.
     
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    True, and 3 presidents out of 45 hardly make a "tradition."
     
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    Muslims don't respect and tolerate us, so why should we respect and tolerate them?..;)

    [Quran 9.123]- "O you who believe! fight those of the infidels who are near to you and let them find in you hardness"
    [Quran 5.51]- "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends"

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    If so - you have some really shitty muslims in your neighbourhood.
     
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    Are there any other types of muslims?
    They're ALL Jesus-rejecting infidel-hating heathens to me..:)
     
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    Isn't that what the Nazis said about the Jews?

    Two wrongs do not make a right.

    Cheers,
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    Well, as I pointed above - we get along with ours pretty well. And that - without stupid restrictions on food and clothing. Plus actually Islam recognises Jesus as one of God's prophets. Called Isa ibn Maryam, and if any muslim will tell you otherwise - pretty much he probably stuffs himself with pork on Ramazan for all day and does not even try to pray in actual direction of Kaaba, if he prays regularily at all. In other words - just a neckbearded pompous poser who has no clue about religion he claims to be worshipping.
     
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    The Jews were peaceful and non-violent, but muslim terrorists are mad dogs, spot the difference?

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    The key word being terrorists. Very few Muslims are terrorists.

    Cheers,
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    We don't want to actively encourage a religion that intends to dominate and turn the rest of us into "Dhimmis" subject to persecution by inbred idiots following the moon god Lucifer.
     
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    You mean heads would be exploding ON the left and right.


    Nazi reference. Everyone take a shot.
     

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