Are you ok with aborting outside the womb?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Let us look at the opposite side of this spectrum. The case of "Baby K"

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_K

    On a ventilator most of its short life - unable to understand what was happening and no hope of ever getting better

    Who paid for this child's care?
     
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    So you only want organizations you personally approve of to be able to contribute to politicians...it doesn't work that way...:)


    And, of course, you have no idea that the Hyde Act prevents federal taxes from paying for abortions and that Planned Parenthood business is 3% abortion and the rest is BIRTH CONTROL, , prenatal health care , cancer screenings , STD care and prevention ( for women AND MEN)....now I know Righties hate anyone but them having health care but that's the way it is...:)


    There is no proof that PP violates the Hyde Act.......none.......none from a non-biased source.....



    But I can understand your righty hatred for an organization that helps the poor, and especially poor women, with their health care...
     
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    Ya, I did , YOU just didn't like the answer....even tho the question is stupid since there is no such thing as abortion after birth...



    The line is VERY clear cut. While the fetus is in the woman it is hers to do as she please since it is IN and ATTACHED to her, part of her body.

    The fetus has limited protection after 23 weeks (viability, which is the ability to live outside and UNATTACHED to the woman)

    It is NOT legally a person until it is detached from the woman (born).

    Once it is legally a person killing it is illegal since it is legally a person....

    DO please read up on pregnancy and childbirth to find out all it entails...being born is NOT just a change in location...
     
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    It should be treated like any other legal medical procedure which is what it is.....:roll:
     
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    I found this interesting

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8519.00282/full
     
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    HOW would it be beneficial to you, in your day to day life , to know why millions of strangers did what they did.

    GEE, Shouldn't we all know why exactly each man takes Viagra ????


    Gee, it would be beneficial if we knew who has plastic surgery and why....I'm sure our lives would improve if we knew who had it and why !!!

    That would be so beneficial to "us all" if we knew that....I'm sure my life would improve .../...yours, too????

    HOW?
     
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    It's a UTERUS, and you can't abort outside it, except for ectopic pregnancy. Abortion is termination of pregnancy. Once the child is born, there is no pregnancy to abort.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assuming it was legal, would you have aborted outside of the womb too?
    I mean the baby comes out premature at 28 weeks and, Golly gee, you suddenly realize the baby has a deformity! Can't let that thing keep on living! Got to try for another one.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But there is a life to abort.
     
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    Some fetuses are more deformed than others.

    And some deformities can be fixed with surgical repair.
    C. Everett Koop, M.D., a former surgeon general and renowned pediatric surgeon, was asked during Congressional hearings on partial-birth abortion if he had ever treated children "born with organs outside of their bodies" (omphalocele). Dr. Koop replied, "Oh, yes indeed. I’'ve done that many times. The prognosis usually is good. … The first child I ever did, with a huge omphalocele much bigger than her head, went on to develop well and become the head nurse in my intensive care unit many years later."

    But sometimes it's just easier to abort them, I guess, and try for a new one.

    I do wonder though if in the future we'll see babies aborted because they had brown eyes.
     
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    Medical procedures on feti (plural of fetus) take up valuable resources. They also pass-on inferior genes. These abnormal feti should be aborted.
     
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    Why not just allow abortions only for unattractive women too while we're at it?
     
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    ..and some surgeries can't....too bad YOU don't get to decide which is which :)

    Of course YOU will donate the millions it takes to do the surgery and pay for all subsequent surgeries and special needs and hospital stays, and physical therapy, etc. ......
     
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    Why do you post such illogical and ridiculous things???

    Because your other comments were refuted and you haven't got anything intelligent to say???


    Or is your basic misogyny rearing it's head with that comment?
     
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    :) Unbelievable..... you haven't a clue what the word abortion means but keep going on and on and on about aborting something that has been born.....

    ...you cannot abort something that has been born...
     
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    Good point. If the mother is not willing to care for a special needs child for the next 40 years, will you do it if she agrees to carry full term, or would you prefer she just abort?
     
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    There is no such thing as aborting outside the UTERUS.
     
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    Reading comprehension problem? Abortion is termination of pregnancy.
     
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    Do you think of a prematurely induced delivery as Abortion? No, of course not.
     
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    Do you know what an abortion is? No, of course not....


    Now, do show what is wrong with this sentence: ""Abortion is termination of pregnancy."""


    It did NOT say nothing else is the termination of pregnancy....delivery is also the termination of pregnancy...


    """Reading comprehension problem?""""


    You still can't abort anything that's been born :)
     
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    If I stuffed you inside a womb and killed you, would that be abortion?
     
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    Let me ask you this, How do you define abortion?
    1) You apparently think the entity that dies has to be inside a womb
    2) You say the woman's pregnancy has to come to an end
    Any more?
     
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