FBI Interviewed Carter Page at length

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Don't see why copies of those FISA warrants would be withheld unless those requesting them do not have the appropriate security clearances.

    And it would not be Mueller's call anyway. The FISA warrants were requested by the FBI and so the FBI needs to turn them over. The role of the SC does not interfere in the operations of the FBI.
     
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    In theory Mueller wouldn't interfere, but Mueller has managed to keep all of Comeys memos to himself ... The appointment if a new FBI director will likely help sort that out. McCabe himself is being investigated now, and that pretty much eliminates him as a player.
     
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    Mueller is not responsible for running the FBI. That would fall under Sessions in the absence of a replacement director and if they don't comply Sessions needs to address the noncompliance or be held accountable himself.
     
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    Mueller's position as Special Counsel is to look for any crimes or conflicts of interest committed as he investigates Russia's intrusion into our election process. He can go down rabbit holes and find crimes that only indirectly relate to Russia. One of the issues with having a Special Counsel is that he may not get to the whys and hows of Russian meddling, like an independent investigation, but instead follow trails of other things.

    As to the FISA requests, I strongly doubt the DOJ is going to force the FBI to give up that kind of information in the midst of an on-going investigation. If they do, it would be in a closed setting, because FISAs are secret, on purpose.

    Time will tell if they do or not, and if they do, under what circumstances.
     
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    He's recused from all things Russia. Muellers usurped his authority just as surely as Comey usurped Lynchs. Trump needs to get Wray confimed, and Pence needs to let Rosenstein know what's expected of him. Anything uncovered by Mueller must inevitably be brought to the DOJ. Mueller & Rosenstein need to define their respective roles.
     
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    It isn't the GOP who CANCELLED the Intell Committee meeting to discuss OBAMA UNMASKING, is it? Who's "obstructing" again?
     
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    Can you link proof where Obama said that? Of course you can't. More lies!
    If this wasn't so sad, it would be funny. You people are a trip with your reverse nonsense.

    One more time. Show us the link where Obama admitted to conspiracy.
     
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    He needs to be allowed to do his job. The man is a professional and a patriot.
     
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    Comey needs to be prosecuted for knowingly using LIES (the dirty dossier) to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on a US citizen, in order to backdoor wiretap then-candidate Donald Trump...and we need to investigate the basis given for ALL Obama Adm. FISA warrants (both given and refused) during the last election cycle.

    The sleaze of the DNC knows no nadir....


    Page is coming out smelling like a rose....what happened to all of the "crimes" you declared him guilty of?? :)
     
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    If you could for a moment stop and google, you will see that the dossier is panning out from the public research. The FBI and CIA will have much more verification but it's like still classified. Page is singing like a soprano but he was always a useful idiot. Looks like the GOP & Trump team are trying to pin the entire thing in a dead man and Mike Flynn. Would be nice for Trump to only have to pardon Flynn if he takes the full weight.
     
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    Assumes extremist alt right disinformation not in evidence.
     
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    Like 99% of the RW posts at PF?
     
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    Why not simply make this phrase your PF signature?
     
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    Yes, the need to smear the SC and the FBI directors by the alt-right pundits and FOX clearly shows that they are terrified of the obstruction of justice investigation(s). The Trump sycophants on the forum are trying and failing to push a false narrative to lay down confusion and smoke to try and save Trump. It's Mueller Time ;). They are trying & failing to make the FBI heads out to be partizans.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why not just use credible nonpartisan sources instead?

    Or would that mean having to deal with reality? :eek:

    Those extremist alt right disinformation sources are your "safe spaces", right? They are where all of the extremist alt rightists can confirm their own biases and bigotries without any fear that someone from the left will burst their little bubble world delusions.

    Isn't there a "special" term that the extremist alt right uses to describe those who need "safe spaces" just like they need they need their own ones on the extreme right? Begins with an "S" and rhymes with snake?
     
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    Mueller should be exempt from criticism, skepticism, and scrutiny? He took the job, he knew exactly what to expect going in. Everything about this affair should be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism. Muellers digging into decades old affairs himself. I've raised concerns regarding Muellers twice failed attempts of railroading Manafort. It's no ones fault but Muellers that he's taken on an investigation that hits this close to home. Muellers "low hanging fruit" ... ripe for picking.
     
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    Why are you so in fear of Mueller investigating the WH for treason and obstruction? And why is Trump so fearful? And why are alt-right pundits so fearful of Mueller? Let the investigations take their course unless the guilty parties don't want the truth to be revealed. Let the card play out without trying to smear true patriots. Seems like the Trump admin and the cronies in the GOP are trying to get out infront of what's to come. Remember, collusion with a foreign government to rig an election is now being touted are legal.
     
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    Hey, take it easy ... you're typing the canned response. Your only deviation seems to be these "off topic" tirades. I'm not an extremist. I don't suffer any delusions. I don't require a safe space. A rational exchange of opinions, and perspectives is the objective. I sometimes get baited, but I try to engage always.
     
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    I'm more interested in your thesaurus in which criticism and skepticism are synonymous with fear ... But, as I've I stated, issues about Mueller have arisen. If Mueller hadn't brought attention to himself by his hirings perhaps his past wouldn't have come back to haunt him. He opposed 702 fervently, then used it extensively spying on Manafort. Comey was Muellers protege during that time. FISA later abused by director Comey?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Then why do you regurgitate discredited drivel like "Mueller usurped his authority" when you know that to be fallacious?
     
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    Since when does the extremist alt right have veto power over who the SC hires for his investigation?
     
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    It frankly isn't. Judicial Watch filed an FOIA request for the release of Comeys memos. The DOJ / FBI responded by saying Mueller was handed those documents by Comey.
     
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    That does NOT equate to "usurping" anything at all.

    It would have been strange if Comey hadn't given them to Mueller since they are germane to his investigation of the BLOTUS.

    All JW needed to do is to request copies from Mueller instead.

    Making mountains out of molehills all that the extremist alt right has left?

    Obviously it is!
     
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    No. What's strange, and what Comey has been questioned extensively about, is why he hadn't already provided his documents, and concerns to those persons designated to address them. Comey first confided in a friend. Then the NYT. Upon Muellers appointment he sought out his protection. The genies been let out of the bottle ...
     
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    That is a complete and utter extremist alt right DISTORTION of the FACTS!

    Comey stated clearly and concisely that he shared his memos with the SENIOR FBI staff throughout all of his interactions with your beloved BLOTUS!

    Furthermore Comey EXPLAINED why he did NOT provide them to Sessions because of his CONFLICT OF INTEREST! When you are running an investigation you don't go telling the potential suspects everything about it because that would compromise the investigation.

    Comey ONLY asked a friend for help AFTER your beloved BLOTUS illegally threatened Comey with "tapes". Threatening an FBI official is a crime and yet you don't raise a peep about your beloved BLOTUS violating the law.

    Mueller is not "protecting" Comey. They spoke because there was a need for Comey to hand over what he was doing to Mueller. A need that ONLY arose because your beloved BLOTUS tried to obstruct the Russia investigation by firing Comey.

    Only the extremist alt right tries to accuse Comey and Mueller of the CRIMES committed by their beloved BLOTUS and that is exactly what you are doing.
     
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