What is Jared Kushner doing meeting with a Russian bank that isn't a Russian bank?

You'll have to connect those Trump dots for me I'm affraid. See, I can't get from 2012 Ukrainian lobbying to the 2016 campaign. I can though get to the 2012 Ukraine lobbying to the guy who investigated it ... Robert Mueller ... oops! under Barack Obama ... oops!

 

See post #51 ...

 

It is not conjecture that evidence regarding Manafort's activities is currently before a Grand Jury. So there is evidence. It just has not been presented in public yet.

But you knew that. You're just playing games.

 

Seen and disregarded as weak and baseless. Noted once again that you continue to ignore that Manfort's activities on behalf of Russian operatives closely connected to Putin predate that Obama Administration.

 

The grand jury only issued a subpoena for records. Manafort complied with the request a month ago, but you know that ...

 

They certainty pre date Obama, but not Mueller who directed the first, second, and third investigation as FBI director. Obama extended Muellers term, and there's no question that Obama was briefed extensively.

 

I wonder how many dealings we could dig up with say, Germany if we wanted to engage in Germany hysteria.

 

Hillary isn't abandoning it. Her campaign team fabricated the Russian hoax in the first place.

Now she is expecting Mueller to continue with the firewall that Comey started for her and her minions until the statute of limitations runs out.

Unfortunately for Hillary, some of her underlings might be willing to turn on her if they are looking at hard time. McCabe might be the first to rat her out.

 

You'll let us know what you find out right?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-billow-of-smoke-yet/?utm_term=.be2bfb873d71 Showing the proof isn't a problem. You talking about the proof is.

 

I'm sure Mueller is looking into it closely

 

Security clearances are required. And who was Jared Kushner at the time? A nobody! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-billow-of-smoke-yet/?utm_term=.be2bfb873d71

 

Can you imagine if Team Obama had done 1/100th, of what team Trump has already done? Obama would have already been impeached.

 

You're being both deliberately obtuse and totally dishonest.

You're working this baseless theme that there is some connection between Obama and Manafort based on nothing more than your own false claim that Manafort only did work for the Ukraine in 2010-1012.

This is not true at all. Manafort has a long history of being a fixer and influence peddler for shady right wing operators, from Ferdinand Marcos to Vladimir Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/paul-manafort-donald-trump-campaign-past-clients

 

Obama has a long history of keeping tabs on Manafort. Obama was also caught talking about "Russian flexibility" at a time when Manafort was lobbying for "Russian flexibility" and Mueller was investigating him for it. The truth won't remain hidden for long.

 

Yeah, Jarrod might need a few more criminal lawyers.........

 

Oh, and I do not claim Manaforts ties to Ukraine are limited to 2010-2012. Obama first became aware of Manaforts activity in 2008, even before his inauguration. Manafort at that time was also being secretly surveilled and investigated by Mueller.

 

Still trying to work that silly theme?

BTW. I have a long history of keeping tabs on Manafort, and a few other shady operators like him (Roger Stone being another one).

I was actually shocked when Trump made him campaign manager last year. I knew that he had been a front man for Putin in Ukraine.

 

Thank god we have you out there protecting us. I heard third hand from an anonymous unnamed source that Kushner was discussing the price of caviar. Is that a problem?

 

Yes. Lobbying, and campaign management are professions. Persons working in those professions go from one campaign to another. Many are very prolific. It's common that they cross party lines as well. Basing you condemnations on associations you find suspicious, or distasteful won't help to support your allegations, or Muellers either. Muellers had 3 shots at the "low hanging fruit" ... 2 already proven futile. He's got an axe to grind, but no evidence to sharpen his axe.

 

No, I don't engage in hysteria, like the Mediacrats do. They are treating Russian ambassadors, who engage in dealings with our officials literally every single day, as if they were spies or something. Talking to Russians is not a crime. The Mediacrat Party is embarrassing our nation on the world stage, with this ridiculous hysteria. The Cold War ended a long time ago. The Soviet Union isn't even a country anymore. Just sayin...

 

I'm not the only one who finds Manfort and Stone's business dealing sleazy and distateful. That's weak attempt at making excuses for them. I found no evidence that Manafort has been in any way bipartisan. Unless you think Ferdinand Marcos and Vladimir Putin are (or were) not both brutal dictators.

 

Contrary to your false claim, there is no history of officials of political campaigns engaging in regular and sustained communications with agents of foreign governments, let alone rival governments.

Yet, that is exactly what happened with the Trump campaign. We are well beyond the point where you can pretend that these contacts are based only on unnamed sources either.

We are at the point where two high ranking officials in the Trump campaign/government have retroactively registered as agents of a foreign government.

We also have Trump's long history of doing business with Russian oligarchs and friends of Putin.

We also have Trump acting like he has something to hide, which he has been doing since day one.

We have the fact that candidate Trump, unlike any other Presidential candidate in my memory, refused to meet with out intelligence people after being nominated, declaring his own superior expertise, and citing folks like Carter Page as his experts. After the election, he continued to avoid his own intelligence officials, and after the inauguartion, he has steadily attacked his own intelligence community.wro

And now that there is no doubt (even by the President's own admission) that the Russians mounted a serious campaign to disrupt and interfere in a US Presidential election, the President of the United States acts as if nothing is wrong.

There is nothing normal or acceptable about any of this behavior.

 

Well Trump has a long history of using those types of banks to funnel illegal money. He used them to launder the money he stole from the Trump Foundation. Then he stupidly admitted to the embezzlement to the IRS and tried to claim tax deductions on it.

 

I don't need to even look this up, it totally is his MO.