Trump Tweets Bring Baby to US

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  1. Guno

    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    just like this lunatic
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    When it was found that parents do dumb things regarding their children's health and well being.
    • Spare the rod and spoil the child.
    • Force them to attend Gay Conversion treatment.
    • Don't vaccinate kids because it causes autism.
    • Don't take children to doctors because it violates their religious views.
    • Don't take a child off of life support because miracles happen.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    It is the parent's child. Trump's tweet instantly exposed the irrational heartless cruelty of government dictated care.

    Experimental treatments are always appropriate for terminal patients as an alternative to certain death.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Are you suggesting that governments don't do dumb things? ;-)
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    How about if the parents believed of putting their baby in boiling water to cure it. Is that ok?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    That would be murder. Why would anyone try to equate murder with choosing a doctor?

    Trump's tweet instantly exposed the irrational brutality of government dictated healthcare. It was a very smart move.
     
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    So parents can withhold food from their children for whatever reason they choose?

    Parents can beat their kids?

    Have sex with them because they belong to the parents?

    What world are you living in?

    Thank goodness the courts and law are keeping this baby from being nothing more than a lab rat....
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    More unresponsive nonsense. Parents do not have the right to commit felonies.

    Parents should have the right to choose the licensed doctors who treat their children. Put it to a vote and see what happens. ;-)

    That is why Trump's tweet was so smart and effective. It is also why his critics are so upset by it.
     
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    I see you have no idea of what the circumstances are.

    Parents do NOT have the right to do anything they want to their children as YOU insist.

    These parents are not being restricted from choosing a doctor, they are being restricted from abusing the baby with more UNnecessary suffering...

    A child suffering is a child suffering whether it's a felony or not.....

    It would be nice if one of you "Government should NEVER interfere in parent's rights over their children" would actually think of the BABY instead of the parents...that is what the court is doing. It is preventing the parents from further tormenting this poor HOPELESSLY ill baby.....

    YOU are not the doctor, why are you claiming you know more than doctors on the scene? You seem to be....the REAL doctors, not you, have said it is hopeless and even moving the baby would cause it pain.....and THAT is what YOU WANT....despicable.
     
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    Errrr no they are not

    Ethics approval does not always pass experimental treatments and it seems this particular treatment has never been used for this baby's condition
     
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    More silly unresponsive nonsense. In fact, the parents are being denied the right to choose a physician and treatment for their child. It is yet another clear example of government acting as an oppressive force against ordinary human beings.

    That is why Trump was so smart to focus the MSM on such a crude example of the abusive power of government.
     
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    Bull. The point is that in this case it is pointless

    The child is very severely brain damaged to the point of withdrawing life support and take it from me if you cannot breathe for yourself there is not much there
     
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    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...exemptions-from-child-abuse-and-neglect-laws/
    http://www.alternet.org/belief/brea...l-literalism-leads-child-abuse-and-even-death

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/gak_children.htm
     
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    In fact experimental treatments are always appropriate for terminal patients, so long as a licensed physician is providing the treatment.

    The parents should choose the physician for their child without any interference before the fact from government. Ordinary people are outraged by this blatant example of the abusive power of government in action.

    Which is why Trump was so smart to tweet about it. It reminds people that single payer = death panels.
     
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    Unresponsive to my posts. Murder is illegal.
     
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    Focus. The parents should be able to choose the doctor and treatment for their child.

    Trump's tweet has resonated with ordinary human beings who are afraid of government's well documented penchant for killing them.
    That is why ot has upset the shrinking amen chorus for Big Government is so upset. Trump's tweet worked - yet again.
     
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    Not quite that cut and dry and as far as the know-nothing hypocrite that you and others assign such marvelous attributes to...he's FOS as well...
     
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    The experimental drugs proposed for the baby in this OP are not licensed
     
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    The parents of a different terminal ill baby believe that immersing their baby in boiling water for three seconds may cure their baby. Why are you denying the parents choice of cure and last hope?
     
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    The tweet was very effective. The response proves it,
     
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    Gee, ya left off the part with the facts and I'm not surprised:


    """"""The child cannot hear, see, move, or breathe on his own, suffers frequent seizures, and has irreversible brain damage at the cellular level. Even the American neurologist working with the family has conceded the treatment is unlikely to improve his condition; what is more likely is that Charlie is in pain.

    Trump’s showboating is infuriating given his attacks on the kind of scientific and medical research that would make life better for children like Charlie. His proposed budget would slash funding for the National Institutes of Health by $5.8 billion. It would also cut Medicaid, which covers 39 percent of American children, by $800 billion; the Senate's version of the health care bill makes other devastating cuts to the program. Meanwhile, the U.S. infant mortality rate is already significantly higher than the rates in Europe and other developed parts of the world.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto..._gard_tragedy_into_a_case_against_single.html""""""""



    I bolded the part you don't care about.......again, it's despicable that you are advocating for a baby to suffer...
     
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    The parents should be able to choose any licensed physician to treat their child with no interference before the fact by government.
     
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    Trump's tweet resonated with those it always resonates with, the uneducated that he loves so much...
     
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    ...and so is torturing a baby to death....as these parents seem bent on doing with your approval...
     
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    Shades of Terri Schiavo
     
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