Trump supporter (Jewish and openly gay) speaks before being beaten by Antifa

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  1. justonemorevoice

    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Do you really harbor hate for some fellow Americans simply based on their voting practices?
     
  2. justonemorevoice

    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Are you okay with Milo's words?
     
  3. J.Idallian

    J.Idallian Well-Known Member

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    The voting practice itself? No.

    The intention behind it, revealed through dialogue, is what earns people my hatred.
     
  4. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently so but the extreme RW only believes in Fake News.
     
  5. justonemorevoice

    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that kinda the same thing?
    :(
     
  6. J.Idallian

    J.Idallian Well-Known Member

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    No, not at all.

    Let me give you an example:

    Person A) I voted for Bernie Sanders because I believe the man is going to change things for the better. I really like his stances on Education reform, and his ideas for free college for everyone.

    Person B) I voted for Bernie Sanders, because he's a progressive socialist, that wants to end the tyranny of America, and redistribute wealth.

    One of them has good intentions, the other has bad intentions. I agree with neither of them, however, I'd be inclined to have a conversation with A, and dropkick B off a cliff.
     
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  7. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ron tends to make it personal and ramble when he's losing a debate.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

    According to a United Nations convention on racial discrimination, there is no distinction between the terms "racial" and "ethnic" discrimination.

    According to the 1965 UN International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,[19] the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.
     
  9. mudman

    mudman Well-Known Member

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    Good, now you should know what it means.

    You should also know that what you claimed was racist clearly wasn't because it wasn't based on race.

    Glad we're clear.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    racism means hatred based on perceptions of race, culture, nationality
     
  11. mudman

    mudman Well-Known Member

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    no....culture has nothing to do with it, race does....hence the term 'racism'

    The definition you posted clearly states this in the very first sentence.

    You can dislike a culture without even knowing the race of the people.....that, by definition, is NOT racism.
     
  12. Denizen

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    Does openly gay mean this guy, Howard practices his sexual preferences in public. Maybe he hit on one of his assailants and they didn't like it.
     
  13. guavaball

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    Of course since he accurately portrayed a very large segment in the homosexual community who see no problem having sex with underage boys.

    I don't condemn it at all but it was gratifying to see a gay man openly admitting sex with underage boys was very common.

    “The law is probably about right, that’s probably roughly the right age. I think it’s probably about okay, but there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age, I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who are sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world by the way. In many cases actually those relationships with older men…This is one reason I hate the left. This stupid one size fits all policing of culture. (People speak over each other). This sort of arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent, which totally destroys you know understanding that many of us have. The complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships. You know, people are messy and complex. In the homosexual world particularly. Some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are, and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable and sort of a rock where they can’t speak to their parents. Some of those relationships are the most -”

    The only thing the left is mad about is him exposing the truth in the LGBT community.
     
  14. Ronstar

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    According to the 1965 UN International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,[19] the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Wrong.


    Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    ‘a programme to combat racism’

    1. 1.1 The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
      ‘theories of racism
    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism

    And no one cares how the UN defines anything. The dictionary is the only definition that counts.
     
  16. justonemorevoice

    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Yah, no. But thanks for assuming that you know why others are "mad" and assuming that you know anything.
     
  17. mudman

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    Once again, in the definition you posted, "BASED ON RACE"

    Do you have a clue what that phrase means?
     
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    Which "proof"? The videos of the guy getting beaten? Can't be that - there are none.
    Which "proof"? The stories from the Alt-Right?
     
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    Your movement - Christianity - has sexually abused children for millenia.
     
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    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh gosh sir stop pouting and posting this stupid UN thing. Geez lol. Sorry I didn't mean to lol your well thought out copy paste.

    I emboldened the actual by law you are using as reference that actually defines racism per the UN.

    I mean wth haha it's after the bold.. IE " that has the purpose of etc etc" where the word culture even comes into play..
     
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    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just don't agree sir, I hate some aspects of all the cultures you listed there but love other aspects. With the exception of Jewish since it's not a race at all.

    This is a very dangerous position your opinion is taking here that could effect alot of conversations so... in light of your many earnest, solid, well thought, true posts I'm going to determine that uh... You've been drinking :)
     
  22. mudman

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    I was referring to the lack of proof that it was fake. There are pics of this guy being treated by paramedics.

    Total bullshit. Christianity has nothing to do with this. It is not taught, celebrated, etc. Sick individuals abuse children because they are sick, not because they are christians and their faith says it's ok.

    MASSIVE difference but nice try attempting to make a point.
     
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    The lack of proof that it was fake? Seriously?

    You have a strange way of looking at evidence. Well, sorry. I did not have a camera crew following him around for 24 hours preceding his getting treated by paramedics.

    On the other hand, the were hundreds of people at the rally with cell phones. No one recorded him being assaulted.



    The average LGBT person is no more inclined to be a pedophile than the average Christian. On the other hand, the rate of child abuse (and cover up) is much higher among Christian clergy. So, point made.
     
  24. mudman

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    People said it was fake for no reason other than it didn't fit well with their narrative.

    There's evidence it happened and there's nothing to suggest it was a hoax.

    Calling it fake is ridiculous. You don't have to believe it, you can take it with a grain of salt, but denouncing it makes you look foolish.




    Your evidence is overwhelming.....and you go on and on about 'proof'.
     
  25. Lil Mike

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    That's a pretty interesting statistic. Where did you pick that up from?
     

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