Which version of god is closest to the real thing?

Whatever gets you by, just allow for differences of opinions.

 

I love differences of opinion. Isn't that why all of us are here on this forum?

 

Well it's nice that you want peace and justice for everyone. Unfortunately each person has their own interpretation of who Jesus is and wishing justice and peace is Just lip service. Thanks for the sentiment though.

 

Not with the way some of the replies are phrased.

 

That bolder part hits it on the head. One can also acknowledge that there is no evidence of God but practice a religion out of faith. An agnostic theist. I would even argue that this is what Christianity is supposed to be about but some people today have this interpretation that there needs to be creation museums and intelligent design scientists trying to prove that the the bible is a science textbook.

 

All Christian bibles say that God created everything that exists....He created evil....to say he didn't is to say it's out of his control.

The Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the God of Abraham. But they will almost all say their God is different. But if God created everything, then he created all religions too. Including the religion of science.....Consider God as a hologram, and everything that exists is in that hologram, right down to the "God Particle" in every atom that gives everything mass....



http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html

 

God is in everything, and everything is in God.

 

Are you saying I am god?

 

RE: Which version of god is closest to the real thing?
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I'm sure that everyone would be much more relaxed if the core of Alan Watts' teaching were real and inside reality. He has charisma and projects an almost Prophet Like image; I'll say that. (Although he has evolved over the years and reinvented himself several times.)

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You almost feel relieved when he makes one of his presentations. He is one of the best speakers you will ever hear. He tries to capture the imagination of his audience. Although I am quite sure that he is a person who entertainingly claims to have a special knowledge of the supernatural (I know not from where), he is benign.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

In the last article in this series we saw that the Jews of Jesus’ day accused Him of blasphemy for claiming to be the Son of God: “Because You, being a Man, make Yourself God” (John 10:33).

His response is intriguing: “Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your law [in Psalms 82:6], “I said, ‘You are gods’ ”? If He [God] called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, “You are blaspheming,” because I said, “I am the Son of God”?’” (John 10:34-36).

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like us....

 

I like listening to him. He sounds reasonable enough and brings up stuff that I hadn't thought of before. I like to listen to the stuff about meditation because it helps to clear my mind and get to sleep. I'm no expert on what he is talking about but it doesn't seem that supernatural to me.

I get pretty focussed on my own mortality sometimes so hearing him talk about that subject gives me a fresh perspective. This idea that we are the universe experiencing itself repeatedly is fascinating. The thing he cannot answer however is whether or not all those experiences are stored.

 

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"“God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”--Dr. Leoanrd Peikoff

 

The only worthy God is the Gnostic Christian God.

Jesus is the way and that way is the Gnostic Christian way. Not Christianity’s way.

Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:1

Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

The Luke and Mark quotes are referring to the following.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

For an extended view of that from my favorite philosopher. ----



You will note that the bible teaches Jesus’ way and Gnostic Christianity follows that good way, yet the church never teaches Jesus’ true way.

Why is Christianity ignoring and even hiding the only worthy Jesus and the teachings of his way?

Regards
DL

 

All minds hold a view of an ideal leader, and in that sense, we all have a God or highest ideal or ideas that we follow.

That is the Gnostic Christian view and the most correct view.

Regards
DL

 

You would say that though, wouldn't you? That's what everyone says about their 'true god'. That's what the Norse people said, and the Greeks, and the Romans, and everyone else. 99.9% of all the gods that were ever worshipped don't exist, except yours, right?

 

More like we will all recognize that we are all Gods.

Jesus asked, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods?

Most have while only Gnostic Christians and Karaite Jews answer that question with a resounding, ---- No.

Regards
DL

 

No they don't. We just want to live together and cooperate together.

 

That's the trouble with religion: garbage in, garbage out.

 

Correct as my God exists. It is I.

So does your God.

Your God is your highest ideal or mental construct of the greatest leader. Right?

Regards
DL

 

Like all peoples, mostly true, but tell us what you think will happen to any species that removes competition completely from itself.

I see it going extinct. Do you?

Regards
DL

 

If you are not the final arbiter of what you know, who is?

Why are you differing to someone else's opinion and directives?

Regards
DL

 

Nature is amoral.

Mankind has a moral nature that we should all be trying to bring to it's highest form which is opposite of the mainstream religions.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

Regards
DL

 

I do not think you quite understand Gnosticism. To embrace the Gnostic belief system one must have a God who inadvertently created a "Spark/Soul" within us all that gnosis (insight into human nature) would set fee.

 

Indeed, Gnosis and apotheosis do just that. We just recognize who that God is. Ourselves.

It shows that humans, as Jesus said, are the light of the world as we can do all he did and more. He showed the best way. The Gnostic Christian way that Christianity has ignored.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Regards
DL