A man was fired from his job after a photo of him at the deadly Charlottesville rally

Stop tying to make excuses for Nazis.

This isn't a college mock debate

 

Utter bullshit, yet another stretch to justify this. employers have methods to establish a pattern of violence before hiring. its a criminal background check and it can be required at any time after employment as well. employers do not normally scour tapes of protests or look at public record party affiliation voter records to figure out who is potentially violent when they have past arrest and conviction records they can use.

 

And yet he was hired and worked there, apparently without any problems, until he attended the rally.

So is that a "yes"?

 

You said anyone who wears a swastika is a Nazi.

Clearly this is false and now you're trying to recover.

 

Do you have a tax stamp for putting the forum on full auto?

 

Lol wut? Huh? Not sure what you mean. Elaborate please. What's "full auto"? And "tax stamp"?

 

Gun joke

 

Well we do not know that it was problem free employment, do we? We don't know if he made good hot dogs, if he showed up on time, if he called in a lot, or if he was argumentative. We presume for this discussion that the employer was not using this as a pretext to get rid of a problem child, and get 'credit' for being a good Berkley citizen.

 

Supposition.

If there was a basis to fire him before, this only gives them cause if you agree that people who are perceived a certain way is justification for firing them.

I see a lifetime supply of hotdogs in his future.

 

jeez.... another fact free attempt at spin by.... a lefty!!!

Did you know that Top Dog issued a reason to why he was fired, and it had to do with his political activism?

Obviously not because if you had known, then you wouldn't be throwing all of this nonsense.

Here is the very (of course) illogical attempt by Top Dog to explain his firing. So now you can go to bed tonight knowing exactly why he was fired.

https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http://www.eastbaytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ebt-l-topdog-0815-4.jpg?w=620&sp=8f7e38f5657dbdc3401266398e54ad6e

 

No I cannot go to bed knowing why he was fired. I can go to bed knowing why his employer claimed to fire him. We choose to believe him

 

Yes....I am intolerant of bigotry and I do indeed remove or "Censor" to prevent it as my membership generally wishes. Individuals such as yourself would be unwelcome do to your disposition of discriminatory mindset. I also do not care for Excrement and thus do not play with it.

 

It is my opinion, just as anyone posting in this forum is simply expressing an opinion to be debated. And after Trump's obnoxious
meltdown yesterday, we can count on more hate groups doing their thing.

 

Oh, so you polled the majority of your member base to find that they opposed racism.

Somehow I doubt the veracity of this. It seems more likely that you censor (which, by the way, is always bad. Ideas don't hurt people) because you personally disapprove of racism. This is narrow-minded intolerance. And for your information, intolerance of ideas is also a bad thing. But you either don't know this or don't seem to care.

 

What we are talking about here is someone went out of their way in execution of their 1st Amendment right to identify another person who was expressing their 1st Amendment right, and they connected the identity of that individual to their place of employment. I don't think the employer cared either way what one of their employees political views were. I think the employer was more concerned about people that might be enraged with that employee showing up at their place of business and starting drama. So the employer did what was in the best interests of his company by separating the company from an individual that could draw drama causing property damage and risk of assault to other employees and customers.

 

The blame of violence should be shared across all groups responsible.

 

I need no poll as all members have obviously been screened over time and those few of racist mindset eliminated. My personal beliefs do not really come into play as we have rules as do all forums which are designed to prevent this mentality from existing in our community.

 

Since one of their chants was against the Jews I interpret their intent was genocide.

 

And the blame for murder? Let's not forget that these trolls came for a fight, as they were carrying weapons and wore
attire geared for violence. They marched and spewed disgusting remarks about Jews, blacks ,etc, giving the hitler sign. One of them
said that they were emboldened by Trump's sickening speech, were going to have more marches, and that more people would die.
One of them also said that he was glad that she was killed. Is there room for Nazis in America? Do you care?
My view is that when the students and others saw the attire, weapons, and hateful rhetoric, they should have left the scene to preclude
the obvious violent tendencies of these dickheads from materializing.

 

Here's more:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/charlottesville-white-supremacists-apos-terrified-132321980.html


U.S.

Charlottesville white supremacists 'terrified' of being exposed online

Gabriel Samuels,The Independent 7 hours ago

Hundreds of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and members of the alt-right marched during the

White supremacists involved in the Charlottesville violence are reportedly “terrified” about being publicly exposed, in case they lose their jobs or receive abuse online.


On Monday it emerged anti-fascist vigilantes were naming and shaming white supremacists on social media, after clashes between the two sides overwhelmed the city over the weekend.


“If you recognise any of the Nazis marching in Charlottesville, send me their names/profiles and I'll make them famous,” one Twitter user requested.


The rally was the largest congregation of white nationalist groups in over a decade and saw brawls between people holding KKK banners and confederate flags and groups of anti-fascist protesters.


Following the campaign, a man was fired from his job at a hot dog restaurant in Berkeley and another has allegedly been disowned by his family over his involvement in the violence.



The frequency with which people are having their details published online - known as ‘doxxing’ - is reportedly a major source of concern for the Charlottesville marchers.


Keegan Hankes, an analyst at South Poverty Law Centre’s Intelligence Project, said the neo-Nazi protesters were well aware it was “hard to make a living, hard to have a normal social life when all your friends and family know you believe in ethnic cleansing”.


“When you see those articles that say, 'We can come out of the shadows now and we don't have to hide our identities,' that's pure bluster,” he told Vice.


“That's them trying to embolden their supporters or bring more people into the fold who would otherwise be casual observers or just stay away, because they're afraid of the consequences of being involved. The truth is, they're terrified.”



Charlottesville backlash: Twitter account outs white supremacists


A Twitter account called “Yes, you’re racist” is naming and shaming those who participated in white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia

Hundreds of photos of white supremacists appeared online in the wake of the violence. Most of the nationalists are known to use pseudonyms and masking techniques to conceal their identities online, but the photographs have made this problematic.


One forum user, who identified himself as a white supremacist, conceded that the thought of being outed and losing his job was a “horrifying prospect”.


"The difference between Charlottesville and other public events is that the organisers were saying 'Do not come to this event without the expectation of being doxxed,'" Mr Hankes added.


"They had some inkling [that they could be outed] given the furore in the weeks leading up to the event, where you saw things ramp up between some of the anti-fascist groups and some of the alt-righters online."


Mr Hankes also confirmed that alt-right supporters had been known to doxx each other in the past. “It is a group of malignant contrarians so they’re constantly bickering with each other,” he said.


On Tuesday President Donald Trump defended his response to the racially-charged protests, attacking what he called the "alt-left" and saying blame should be shared by both sides.


More than 30 people were injured and a 32-year-old woman died when a car allegedly driven by a white nationalist ploughed into a crowd of counter-protesters.

 

Yes I admit that is possible, but remember, that same line of reasoning would cause a woman who has gotten a restraining order on her ex, to be greeted by a pink slip after she leaves a potentially abusive relationship. Not that must be much evidence that there is any evidence of anyone being in danger, because of the low burden in a protective order and frequent use for tactical purposes, , but there will be more than your scenario provides! Better to be safe than sorry, can her ass!

In both instances, you are firing someone because you think they may be the victim/ target of violence at your establishment. They are both guilty of obeying laws and seeking lawful redress, and obeying every rule in your little employee handbook, before they got their last paycheck.

 

Anyone that willfully goes out of there way to draw attention is not a victim if they receive the very attention they were seeking.

 

BULLSHIT. Someone who seeks to bring attention to a series of political views he endorses at a march, is not seeking to be attacked for those views at his place of employment a week later, anymore that someone who seeks the romantic attention of another on a date, wants to be raped in an ally ! You do not get to decide that accepting the potential for confrontation as a risk, at a protest march is inviting a beating, whenever or however it suits any possible adversary including at his job. You have no evidence that this man who was fired, broke any laws or intended to. You know that he showed up at a protest march for a confederate statute with a viable permit.

 

If this guy didn't know he was asking for consequences at the time he does now. Live, learn, and move on.

 

Its not his lesson to learn, its ours. We haven't seen fascism in this country, but we have seen this story time and time again in the last century, whenever we turn big business /Corporate America into our enforcers of political decorum, because we can't get government to do the dirty work of penalizing free speech and assembly. ItInstead of a month in the pokie or a thousand dollar fine, we have employers fix the sentence for expressing unpopular political views off the clock, and off the premises at unemployment, I see this as a very chilling lesson, and it can be expanded to people who put the wrong bumper sticker on their car, or write a letter to the editor that is inconsistent with company policy too.