Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    By the way, I'm surprised - why oligophrenics, which demolish monuments, still do not take down the bas-relief on Mount Rochemor? Because Washington and Jefferson were notorious slaveholders.
     
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    Well it does indicate the degree of accuracy of your posts. But being caught in a lie never bothers our right wing friends.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Simply as a rhetorical question, is it even possible that one reason we are in such a state is because we have been "at war" for about 15 years, longer by a factor of about 3, than ever before in our history? Are the proverbial dogs of war still loose in our society?
     
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    I turned on my radio this morning at 6;30 a.m. to catch up on the news that happened over night. Common routine for me every morning just to make sure Los Angeles hasn't been burnt down to the ground by the animals in the jungle over night.

    I caught the tail end of a news story that the leftist, alt-left, liberals, the American Taliban what ever you want to call them are demanding that all statues and memorials of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson be removed throughout America.

    I suppose that also includes Mt. Rushmore.
     
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    This is because imbeciles are not subject to compulsory treatment. (By the way, you found a very accurate comparison - the liberal = the Taliban or ISIS.)

    Vladimir Putin has warned the United States that George Soros is driving the country towards civil war, using divisive politics, violence and media propaganda to further his goals.

    Speaking at a cabinet meeting in the Kremlin, President Putin told senior advisors that George Soros is using his vast network of agitators to target America’s most sensitive points and cause turmoil.

    Make no mistake, his endgame is revolution through civil war. In America he is using exactly the same tactics he uses everywhere. “

    George Soros is a well-known pyromaniac with matches in his back pocket pouring petrol onto a bonfire.”


    Putin also had a message for Americans. They must reject George Soros and his dangerous influence or else they run the risk of losing the country to globalist interests.

    He does not own the world and he does not have the right to do whatever he wants. The people must come together and reject this dragon. We have no room for his divisive politics in Russia, and I think you will all agree we are much the better for that. With all due respect, America must reject George Soros’s vision.”
    http://yournewswire.com/putin-soros-civil-war/
     
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    What a joke, only a liberal can make such outrageously fake nonsense claims. The left constantly and currently are in the process of trying to wipe away your history and rewrite it as the right being the racists. You are still the party of racism and violence. Nothing has changed.
     
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    It's really sad to have watched liberal Democrats and progressives becoming the American Taliban. Really sad.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America does not silence anyone. They should feel safe gathering and speaking their little minds. (And getting their faces on camera)
     
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    There will be no civil war. Liberals are not going to give up their lives fighting conservatives. Nor will conservatives give up their lives fighting liberals.

    Most people have a life, and they're not going to throw it away for nothing.
     
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    Seems like just a very short time ago I was watching television and the news that night was about the destruction of statues and buildings that had had stood for centuries. At the time I thought how stupid can people get to think they can erase a whole culture. Of course those people were the Taliban in Afghanistan. I really don't see much difference than the people who think they can erase history here. I have come across a couple of those statues, but I couldn't tell their names, I can remember how majestic the horses were.

    I am originally from Detroit, and I can tell you for a fact that, the city is but a shell of itself from what it was before the riots of 1967. Just as Ferguson has spawned confrontation between the blacks and police, all over the states, so can one little riot like Detroit or Los Angeles set off a powder keg throughout the states.

    As long as political leaders refuse or try and step around the situations, for fear of offending one group or another, you will see these acts being played out over and over.

    So were do we go from here? A couple years ago the removal of street names that were offensive, last year the names from buildings, this year statues , next year all books and written words? When can I expect the knock on my door and the removal of all my black memorabilia I have collected over the years? Will it be worth going to the District of Corruption for a visit anymore or will all the monuments be gone except the modified black history museum ? What am I to think when I only see two faces on Mount Rushmore? Picnics will be a little different at Stone Mountain State Park in Georgia.

    As someone said "Never, say, Never" History has a strange way of repeating itself to those who have not learned the lessons of the past.
     
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    But but but many millennial snowflakes, anarchist, millennial-Marxist don't have a real life so they text, take down Civil War statues and go hunting for fascist.
     
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    The monument to General Sheridan in Washington. He fought for the northerners. But He "famous" the mass genocide of the Indians. Fighters with monuments are not interested?
     
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    As far as these lefties target is this scum of Klansmen, Nazis, Aryans and other White Power sub-humans, I have no big problem with them ...
    But the removal of Civil War statues and monuments is at least really shameful!
     
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    Reminds the third Reich.
     
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    “[T]he Amendment can most reasonably be read as defining a citizenship which a citizen keeps unless he voluntarily relinquishes it. Once acquired, this Fourteenth Amendment citizenship was not to be shifted, canceled, or diluted at the will of the Federal Government, the States, or any other government unit.” In a subsequent decision, however, the Court held that persons who were statutorily naturalized by being born abroad of at least one American parent could not claim the protection of the first sentence of section 1 and that Congress could therefore impose a reasonable and non-arbitrary condition subsequent upon their continued retention of United States citizenship. Between these two decisions is a tension that should call forth further litigation efforts to explore the meaning of the citizenship sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    Now considering that exert annotation regarding the 14th Amendment and holding it up side-by-side with the 5th Amendment, you notice an exception of civil rights being made "in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger" (i.e. rebellion). Now if memory serves me correct the Confederate flag was also known as the "Rebel Flag" (which was not only outlawed because of its meaning, but also condemns any who wield it to be subjected to losing all of their citizen rights and immunities. Yet repeatedly I see Rebel flag wavers bravely armed and open-carry in the comfort afforded by the 2nd Amendment protected an respected by law enforcement when non-Rebel flag wavers are not. So when I hear Governor Terry McAuliffe asked, “How did we get to this place?” I have to respond, We got here because politicians like you lack the comprehension of the US Constitution." I was already aware of Governor Terry McAuliffe lack of Federal Constitutional awareness last year when he finally did the right thing the wrong way, by finally restoring disenfranchised ex-felons' voting rights (which was long over due as it was Constitutionally illegal to ever deny those voting rights in the first place).
     
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    These monuments and statues are art and are our culture and history.

    There's one Civil War general I'm not a big fan of, Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman. Under the laws of war he's a war criminal. Using the scorch earth tactics of burning down cities, looting, plundering and the rape of black female slaves. "Sherman's March to the Sea" He fought for the Northerners.


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    Unless the Taliban in America are stopped, they'll eventually get around to toppling this statue.

    What's strange about the PC left they don't consider these statues as being art and America's history but consider a crucifix in a jar of urine being art.

    And the majority of these millennial Taliban don't even know the names of these statues are since we no longer teach history in our schools and colleges but indoctrinate the students in PC revisionist history.

    The Democrat Party has become the Taliban Party.
     
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    no, the white christer party is the American taliban

    So the nazis should have been able to erect statues of hitler after WWII?

    a little education is in order



    Graphic reveals the construction of Confederate monuments peaked during the Jim Crow and civil rights eras

    http://theweek.com/speedreads/71850...ents-peaked-during-jim-crow-civil-rights-eras
     
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    When the American Taliban gets around to our libraries you can expect them taring off the front cover of Time magazines.

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    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-america-headed-for-a-new-kind-of-civil-war

    The blood has already been spilled, life is cut short. The parties receive their first sacral sacrifices, their first heroes. Mutual accounts and claims are growing.
    The formal reason for the clashes (I hope everyone remembers the difference between the reason and the occasion for the school course of history) was the attempt of the federal authorities to demolish the monument to General Lee.

    This monument stood for more than a hundred years, did not bother anyone. But recently, the Feds began to view the symbols of the southerners as "a threat to territorial integrity." If your authority is threatened by a monument to a long-dead general of the losing side, then your authority is a colossus on clay feet.

    The real reason for the clashes clearly describes the slogan put forward by the protesters - "White life matters". The Anglo-Saxon majority was fed up with negative discrimination, fed up with the fact that Negroes and Latinoes, gays and lesbians, feminists, invalids and "alternatively gifted" have numerous privileges over the actually oppressed white majority.

    In addition, about 47% of Americans surveyed believe that Christianity in the US is an oppressed and persecuted religion.


    Accordingly, we have the lines of schism in American society:
    - Geographical (south against the north);
    - Historical (confederates against the feds);
    - racial (white versus "color");
    - religious;
    - ideological (conservatives against liberals); - and there also try to and gender factor.

    For most civil wars in the history of mankind, any of the above factors was quite sufficient. And, most importantly, the current conflict in the US has economic.

    Mutual accounts and claims are growing, the abyss and hatred are expanding. And behind the backs of the street fighters loomed the ghosts of General Lee and the "liberator of other people's slaves" (their not liberated) Abraham Lincoln.

    The federal authorities are too busy with the struggle for power and foreign political games, demonstrating complete inadequacy. The expression "civil war" is increasingly heard on the air of American media.

    What do you think about it?

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    Why does Putin want the US to have a civil war? Will he handle the Reconstruction?
     
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    Bravo!
     
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    If Germany had a constitution with a freedom of speech amendment they could have erected statues of Hitler.

    But Germany isn't the United States.

    But the left in America have an agenda making America to look like Europe.
     
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    You are wrong. Civil war in the US, this is the last thing the Russians want.

    I hope you do not think that Putin is a fool. Is not it?
    Everyone understands that the civil war in the country is crammed with nuclear (and not only) weapons is a problem for the whole world. A big problem.
    No one in their right mind wants a civil war in the United States. Civil war in the US is beneficial only for Crazy American politicians. Such as Clinton or Soros.

    By the way, Putin warned in 2007 about the possibility of a civil wars in the US and the EU. And not so long ago he repeated his warnings. He talked about crazy politicians who are fomenting wars around the world. He said "At least you understand what you have done?"
    But Western politicians listened to him. But they continued to do what they did. Now the boomerang is back.
     
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    The purpose of the liberal media, and the alt left movement is to erase the southern culture.

    They hate that the south, even today has it's own history, languages, art, architecture, and cuisine. Even in the face of loosing a stupid war.

    If folks took the time to read, they would know that the southern gentlemen's code of chivalry depended on three things:
    #1 His Churce
    #2 His State
    #3 His Country
    In that order. Robert E. Lee was fighting for Virginia. Read his letters. He hated slavery and stated so many times. But the federal government was invading his STATE.
    Same goes for Thomas (stonewall) Jackson. He was a man of God, and reviled slavery, but fought to save is native Virginia from the federals.
     
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