"Let Me Tell You Who Obama Pardoned" Trump Destroys Reporter Over Joe Arpaio Pardon

He is 85 and sure seems fit. I agree though.

 

Several. Not that that has anything to do with what I've said.

 

He committed a crime.

 

Parties do not become presidents. Trump will work out in the end. He entered office to hurricane headwinds. And it will take some time for it to even out. Maybe we get nuked by North Korea. Then Trumps supporters will show up tall and full of fight.

 

You have to be kidding.

 

The Sheriff was never convicted of or charged with any crime. It was a civil case by a Clinton appointee.

The absurd "contempt" charge was largely based upon a claim by the Clinton judge that the Sheriffs department did not turn over all records required, which the Sheriff's department disputed. Nor was it the Sheriff stopping people, but deputies. The Sheriff asked for a jury trial since the judge was talking about jail time - and the constitution guarantees the right to a jury trial - but the Clinton appointed judge said no, he was going to be the accuser, the witness, the prosecutor and the judge all in one.

Under the same theory, for records that people in the Obama administration were refusing to release, Obama himself should have been jailed for contempt and held personally responsible for anything anyone in nearly any federal agency did. The accusations were never about what the Sheriff personally did, but rather what others did claiming the Sheriff was liable for their actions and inactions. The Clinton judge was as corrupt as is possible.

While Democrats will just keep chanting he was a criminal, the fact is that the Sheriff was not even charged with any criminal offense. It was a contempt charge by a Clinton judge in a CIVIL case.

 

None of which changes the fact that he held people without charge, racially profiled, etc.

 

Not in the least, either about the frequency with which Trump fans bring up Obama or about the fact that there are several common links between them.

 

No it doesn't nor is "accepting the pardon" relevant or accurate. There is no provision whatsoever for a person to refuse a pardon.

None stop Democrat lying talking points. Or is it stupidity? Arpaio was NEVER convicted of ANY crime. Contempt of court is not a crime.

 

That is where I disagree, I think parties DO become Presidents more often than not, they change a lot of what they personally feel as they conform to their party in order to be able to get so high.

THAT as I stated is why I was hopeful of Trump, but so far he is making so many small mistakes that I am not sure how effective he will be able to be at any of the mostly moderate things he wants to do.

It looks like you are giving Trump too much leeway here as he has caused a lot of the new hirrcane winds you are talking about

 

Trump pardoning a good sherriff isn't as crazy as Obama trading 5 terrorist leaders for a traitor. This is just something for the left wing sissies to cry about

 

What a bunch of generalized drivel. I gather from your messages that you copy what you see on hack blogs and then just dump them on the forum as if your own words regardless of the thread topic.

 

I don' care about Obama or Clinton.

I pointed out that your claim is a lie, as you know.

 

This might calm the Democrats and sympathizers down.

Here you can both read and listen as the case is fully discussed.

Summed up: Not certain that Arpaio would have jail time. Time max was 6 months. Judge could use factors in his favor to vacate jail time.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...und-guilty-criminal-contempt-court/486278001/

 

Begs the question: what was it trump pardoned him for?

 

When a poster stoops that low, I pay them no attention. They show anger, hostility... far above what is reasonable.

I won't put the poster on the hook by showing who posted it, but it is this I call attention to. Are posters going to grow up?

 

So I am sure that you, as well as all of those people that liked your post came out openly against Obama's pardons?

Just a question. I think we all know the answer.

 

This is further evidence of how Trump has the maturity of a slow pre-teen. "But Johnny did it too", is something we all should learn is not a valid defense for doing something wrong before we get in first grade.

 

He WAS upholding the law. The laws the federal government decided to not enforce. Based on your comments, Obama should have been the one thrown in jail.

 

I speak from my personal experience. If you mean the party platform? Probably you do mean that. Take Trump for instance? He only partly agreed to party platform.

I find it impossible for we who have slings and barbs as our offerings to know precisely what is going on in DC. Trump has his twitter face and the other face we do not see while he works with staff, etc and etc.

I would say party platform was to get rid of Dodd Frank along with ACA. But it is the Congress stalling, not Trump.

I see the media. I see how they never stopped trashing him. The day he was sworn in, they trashed him. And the public is led by our noses by the media. And the media is well aware of their power to focus minds of voters.

 

It puzzles me why ICE can capture illegals and remove them, but a Sheriff is not able to capture them and hand them to ICE.

There is the mob mentality of Democrats with their longing for illegals. And I suspect for economic reasons. Where will they hire that next maid if they don't have the illegal woman?

 

Is there a chance that one of the leaders of the Democrat posters shall stop such flaming of Trump?

Is there a Democrat willing to discuss and not flame Trump? You have not even quoted Trump so we find out what you are trying to discuss.

 

You are pretty much agreeing with everything I said. I was excited about Trump at first because he was hopefully NOT with either party. While I still hold that to be at least partially true now, he is attacking people that he doesn't need to be and harming his administration though his actions.

Trump is failing because he is losing political capital with both sides in congress. The way he is going about things, he is ruining his changes of passing legislation.

And again, of course they have always trashed him, but he could be handling this all MUCH better and THAT is why it is his fault.

 

I have to say, I do think it was a crime. But not a Felony, but a misdemeanor. And there is no certainty Arpaio would have served a moment in jail. When you speed, you often commit a misdemeanor.

A sentencing Judge would find all about the many times Arpaio collected up an illegal and got him sent to Mexico or lower down in Cent. America. There were maybe 150 cases where the victims sued Maricopa County and probably collect a measly $2,000 ea. from citizens there.

 

Spot on. I have many times squared up my mouth and said Trump, shut up.