"Let Me Tell You Who Obama Pardoned" Trump Destroys Reporter Over Joe Arpaio Pardon

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, for what it is worth, I do sympathize with you for wishing to forget Obama was president.
     
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    I don't sympathize with the attempted distraction.
     
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    It does expose the Obama worshipers that hate Trump as hypocrites.

    The right gives Sharif Joe a pass

    The left gives jihadist a pass

    Who is more dangerous?

    Why don't people take Hillary landslide, Russia hacked the election, Trump's a Nazi, collectivist propaganda parrots seriously? You would think Trumps approve rating would be like .1% if all he had were Nazis/KKK/Russian agents.
     
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    President Trump never ordered anyone to drop an investigation. That is one of the growing list of deliberate Democratic Party and MSM lies.
     
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    I am not a member of the Democratic party. I am independent - I voted Gerald Ford and for Ross Perot in 2 elections.
    Why would I quote Trump? He clearly was saying Clinton/Obama pardoned bad hombres so he felt he could do the same.
    Trump flames anyone who doesn't kiss his butt - why shouldn't he be flamed in return???
     
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    Of course you don't....when it suits you.

    And I reject that as you know.

    You have yet to demonstrate the "lie".
     
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    When did Trump flame you?

    Do you honestly think of a misdemeanor as making you a bad sheriff? Do you really think Arpaio would go to jail? Over what? We have seen a lot of flaunting of law not only by Obama, but his orders reached to street level. He flaunted a lot of laws.

    Do you honestly see a reason why Obama would go to jail? We must treat both men fair.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump can kill any investigation using the pardon. But so far, he has not tried to kill any investigation. There are genuine investigations and then there are fake ones. Fake ones assume a crime and hunt and hunt thinking if they hunt long enough, surely they will find a crime. Is that not a witch hunt? Sure it is.
     
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    Trump has implied I am un-American because I oppose him. I resent that.
    I don't think Arpaio would go to jail - so why pardon him before sentencing??? I'll tell you why - to tell racists that Trump has your back.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The difference for me is I did not vote for Ford and did vote for Carter. I refused to vote for Perot due to it handing the presidency to Clinton. I saw that miles away so stuck to Bush.

    Now, this is my opinion on independents.

    They constantly vote for losers.

    Would you have been pleased to have Hillary as president?
     
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    He cannot kill the investigation, he can pardon, but the truth of guilt would be out. So far, he has denied guilt - I don't know how the meeting with Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner can be ignored - it might not be criminal, but is certainly un-American and is certainly guilt.
    Go ahead, deny reality.
     
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    Wait until he accuses you. An implication often is misunderstood. But for Trump, you would have Hillary. How about president Clinton again? The female one this time.
     
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    Bingo! That is what makes this different than any pardon we've ever seen. It was politicized and used as a dog whistle.

    We've never seen a politician who wields the power of pardon like a weapon. It shows a clear intent to undermine the rule of law and make that acceptable.
     
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    Do you truly believe they would still proceed with the investigation were the pardon issued? I do not.

    The meeting you bring up took place while Trump was shooting for office. Do you truly think Democrats do not dig up dirt to use? They really crapped all over Mitt Romney.
     
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    got to love republicans, yea we pardon racists... but look what previous Presidents did
     
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    You guys act as if Arpaio was on his way to prison. They don't put you in Prison in my state unless the sentence is over one year. I suspect AZ is similar. Further, there is no guarantee at all that he would have gone to jail for a minute. He had far too many years of service as a great law enforcement officer.
     
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    short term memory problems from what it looks like to this poster.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Say, tell us again about AZ law and how they deal with racists?

    Do you understand that you can be racist against whites? If you think not, you clearly vote for Democrats.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me clear this up.

    I oppose you. Does this make you more American than I am?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being racist is among the founders expressly applied laws.

    Some of you taunt or harass or insult using the term racist. I find next to nobody that is non racist. Maybe they adore blacks but show utter contempt for white people. I allow them to be racist. It is called freedom.
     
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    No.
    But I would not be quite as disgusted as I am now. I cannot think of any redeeming qualities in Trump - seriously. Hillary I could say was smart and experienced and professional - none of that can be said of Trump. He is a living lie. He portrays himself as a successful businessman, but had multiple bankruptcies, owes much of his worth to being a reality show host, could be in hock up to his ass (to Russian banks?) but won't release his tax returns so we don't know for sure, and is astoundingly ignorant and poorly spoken.
    It was definitely a "lesser of 2 evils" choice - one of many in my life.
    How can you think Perot helped Clinton??? To me, if you wanted change, you could choose Clinton or Perot, if you liked things, you stuck with Bush. I believe a vote for Perot was one Clinton, not Bush, lost.
    I always felt Clinton was a carnival barker. He did not get a majority of the vote, either.
     
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    Abraham Lincoln was a racist. Yet he gets called a great president. What I see clearly is he waged war on the public whom had voted to leave the union. When you divorce your former wife, you can't commit adultery on her. Same with leaving the union. When you depart, you can't commit treason on the former. You openly and using law removed yourself from the Federal groups.
     
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    Do you really think if the Democrats had a meeting with RUSSIANS to attempt to tilt the election - we wouldn't STILL be hearing about it???? AND RIGHTLY SO.
    You don't see any problem with colluding with a foreign country to tilt an election? Particularly a country not quite an enemy, but certainly no ally, and one run by a corrupt dictator.
    The GOP holds the record for "dirty tricks" - Karl Rove will live in infamy for bringing new lows to American politics. How John McCain was smeared in 2000 was really reprehensible.
    Romney deserved all he got. His own words hung him - that isn't "dirty".
     
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    You seriously need help.
    Your comparisons are inane.
    YOU LOST THE CIVIL WAR.
    Re-fight it and you'll lose again.
     
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    I mellowed with age. I wish more people could mellow out.
    Hillary led the state department to shame. I don't need to enumerate all the things she did. And she loved to lie.

    Trump, as I believe anyway, took on companies doomed to bankruptcy, then bankrupted them and put them into standing condition.

    Bankruptcy is not supposed to connote shame. It is legal in full. It is endorsed by law.

    Hillary could not whip Obama when she had this experience. I do not like Democrats politics. Not since I left that party.

    I won't question Trumps business acumen since he became super wealthy. Like him or hate him, and to hate him shows immaturity, he is not a poor man. Heck, his properties ooze luxury and many people enjoy that luxury. His properties are in high demand.

    I don't fault him for making money off TV. Why would you? Oprah Winfrey grew to have awesome wealth off a talk show. She never catches hell for it.

    I can tell by your words you did not bother to read the Trump disclosures he lawfully made to the Feds. He laid himself wide open. Any connection to Russia was there. But it was not there.

    I can't think of a republican who voted for Perot that planned to vote for Clinton, but when they voted for Perot, it robbed Bush of votes. I know people who but for Perot, were going to stick it out with Bush. Democrats of course supported Clinton. Perot cost us the election to Clinton. I had moments of grief with Bush though he got high approvals during the election season. But not to the point I would cost him the election by voting for Perot.

    I have many times defended Ross Perot. I truly think had he become president, we all would have fared about as well as now under Trump. Both were examples of excellence in business.
     

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