Yes, Antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazi

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  1. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AntifAssHats, NazIdiots... 6 of one, half dozen of the other really.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There are no fascist forum members or anyone defending nazis.

    That is one of the lies which makes antifa so reprehensible. They are not fighting anyone of the sort they are instead fighting anyone who is even slightly to the right of a communist.

    The LONG list of people they oppose includes no fascists or nazis.

    You are also wrong and ill informed in your misrepresentation of our WWII veterans. They fought for American ideals including freedom of speech for all INCLUDING NAZIS.

    If antifa strictly limited themselves to peaceful protests and opposition you might have a valid point but they do not. they declare themselves morally permitted to violently attack those they disagree with.

    That makes them just as bad and our WWII veterans would in fact oppose such a double standard
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it isn't!

    Come back when anti-fa has killed as many people as the KKK and the Nazis combined. . .and then we can talk!
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Read yours again. In fact, the CPUSA opposed US intervention in WW II until the German invasion of the USSR.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes free speech is far more important than one act of murder which cannot accurately be called terrorism.

    Even if it were terrorism the freedom of speech would be more important
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No they were not they are in fact JUSt as evil. They were fighting competing evil ideas.

    You have no right to violently fight ideas.
     
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  7. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Body count is irrelevant.

    Treat them accordingly now, & the body count, is likely to remain small.
     
  8. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WRONG! It is the WESTERN RIGHT that was pro-Nazi, until they realised how evil Nazism really was. Even the Catholic Church was fooled for awhile.

    Not unlike today's Trump's supporters!
    But at least, the Catholic Church is not fooled by this clown.

    However, the Evangelical (Christian Talibans), whose leadership is not fool (although the sheep are!), is USING Trump for their own agenda.
     
  9. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Compared to the fascists of yore the neo Nazi/AntiFA/FA are all pretty punk - so far.
     
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    Wikileaks.

    George Soros donates money to Crooked Hillary and the DNC and that money works its way down to the militant arms of the Democrat party like A*N*S*W*E*R Coalition, PSL, WWP, BLM, Black Bloc, Antifa...

    Funding

    Because Antifa is a decentralized movement consisting of so many loosely affiliated groups as well as individuals acting on a freelance basis, it is difficult to trace its funding sources with any degree of specificity. Some publications have suggested that a financial connection exists between Antifa and the multi-billionaire leftist George Soros. But whatever money the movement may receive from high-profile financiers (like Soros) or charitable foundations, ultimately makes its way to Antifa by way of a very circuitous path. This is because few philanthropies or big-name funders want to risk tarnishing their own reputations by openly supporting hordes of violent radicals. As Jason Kessler writes in GotNews.com: “It’s instructive to show how money from globalist billionaires like George Soros and Tom Steyer trickle down to the Antifa foot soldiers in many major demonstrations. Soros and Steyer donate to Media Matters, a left-wing group that operated Hillary Clinton’s notorious online propaganda arm Correct the Record. Media Matters in turn funds groups like ANSWER.... This is typical of the way [the] top-down, billionaire-funder-to-terrorist-foot-soldier hierarchy works, with several degrees of separation and plausible deniability.”

    Meanwhile, Lee Stranahan, writing in Breitbart.com, observes that the angry passions of Antifa activists generally require no extrinsic motivation from outside funding sources: “While it’s been proven that funders like Soros and the Democratic Party have paid protest organizers and some protesters, groups like the violent Black Bloc typically aren’t motivated by money, but instead come to protests because of their anti-American ideology, base criminal desires and thrill seeking.”

    One organization that can be definitively identified as a funder of the Antifa movement is the Alliance For Global Justice (AGJ), which serves as the fiscal sponsor of Refuse Fascism, a constituent organization of the movement. AGJ, in turn, has received some funding from George ...
    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7921
     
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  11. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong! Body count is relevant!

    Can you tell me how many people Anti-fa has killed in the last 20 years?

    Now, compare it with Right extremists, KKK and neo nazis.

    No need to go back to prior to the civil war or to WWII. . .just look at the last 10 or 20 years!
     
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  12. Just_a_Citizen

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    Body count is irrelevant.

    Nip it quick, before the numbers grow.

    Like the international community SHOULD have done regarding Hitler/Nazis.

    Keep your ideological hate, which enlarges your bias, in check Plz.
     
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    False.
    A terrorist act need kill no one for it to be a terrorist act.
    Thus, body count is irrelevant
     
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    So was the Spanish Inquisition.
     
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    You have been misinformed. Sue your teachers.

    In fact, the NSDAP was supported throughout the German university system. It was considered very progressive.

    Corporal Hitler was caught in a photograph in mourning at the Socialist Bela Kun's funeral procession. His claims to have been acting a a spy are frankly incredible and self serving.

    Hitler rejected Bolshevism because he thought it was to theory driven to pull off a revolution in Germany. Most progressive intellectuals agreed with him - even after Kristalnact.

    "...he described the speech [by Hitler] as a "genuinely statesmanlike address.' ... 'We have heard once more ... the authentic voice of a genuinely civilized people.' ... 'to deny today that Germany can speak as a civilized power because uncivilized things are being done in Germany is in itself a deep form of intolerance." Walter Lippmann praising Hitler, from Ronald Steele, "Walter Lippmann and The American Century", p.331.

    Lippmann was the founder of the Socialist Club at Harvard, and a Leftist MSM pundit before and after the war. There are countless other examples.
     
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    Good point.
     
  17. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You reckon its just a coincidence the RW propaganda media has inundated the media with negative "Antifa" stories at just the same time nazis and white supremacists were protesting and running down innocent people in Charlottesville?

    Could be.
     
  18. Soupnazi

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    Which simply means the small percentage of the media stated facts which the mainstream liberal media ignored
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Believe me, White Supremacists and Antifa would not find me acceptable to their groups. I'm educated, Catholic, first generation Sicilian/American, a veteran, conservative and love America.
     
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    It doesn't mean that at all.

    What it means is that the RW propaganda machine fueled by donald trump has tried to focus attention and modernize anti-nazi/white supremacist protestors to turn attention away from the nazis and white supremacists, and create a false equivalency that the anti-nazi/white supremacist protestor are just as bad as the nazis.
     
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    Why would that mean you would not be welcome, if say, you promoted white supremacists views and policies?

    Why did you dodge the question?

    But you are anti-facist, aren't you? You aren't a nazi, right? Or a white supremacist?
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it means what I said.

    No one in the right wing media minimized anything and in fact blamed both sides.

    Both sides are to blame and that is a real equivalency. The antifa protesters are just as bad or worse as those they violently attack. That is simple proven fact which you and the left wing media lies out right and ignores
     
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    When they use violence, they are.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for sharing your opinion. It's just one massive coinky-dink that all this "antifa" news dominating the RW propaganda circuit (as we see here) just happened to come out after Charlottesville.

    You have to believe in a lot of huge coincidences to be a conservative, I've noticed.
     
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    Still Campaigning on Moral Equivalency ... ? :mrgreen:
     

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