Should "Conservatives" back Impeachment

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Should Conservatives back impeaching Trump and hope for Pence?

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  2. No

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  3. I'm close, but not yet

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  1. bradt93

    bradt93 Well-Known Member

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    yep, that's like when conservatives wanted to impeach Obama. Both sides need to get over it when the opposing party wins the WH.
     
  2. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Primaried, yes. Absolutely. Impeached? Not unless they can confirm an impeachable offense. I don't care for Trump but so far they have no cause to impeach him. But yes, primarying him should be a very strong option. Let him run 3rd Party. He can call it "Trump Party" or "Covfefe Party".
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are you talking about? He set the FBI lose on them! Is the far-right now making up some sort of new revised history? One that you are actually believing?

    And what do you mean by "now". As for himself, personally, he publicly announced it in October. But, obviously, he has known about it at a minimum since all of us knew about it. Which was in late July 2016. If you mean that it wasn't reported in wingnut media... well... that''s what you get for not listening to real news once in a while: You become very uninformed.
     
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    Impeach Obama for what?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whodat
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only on Trump's words and actions, for now.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    Oh! Or was this just an opportunity for you to resuscitate Hillary? And you didn't expect anybody to answer?
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    Ain't never gonna happen, no way, no how. Enjoy the circle jerk.
     
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    Heavens no.... not in the least. Because Trump is only partially following the conservative ideals is absolutely no reason to join the crazies who shout "impeach" like they are ordering coffee.
     
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    To be fair to Trump. Whatever he tweets he ended DACA. Ask yourself this would DACA illegals prefer if he did what he did or left it alone?

    Congress has 6 months to do whatever they want to do (and not doing anything is a choice too). At that time if Trump does nothing else then DACA is officially over. You cannot fault Trump for something he may or may not do in the future.

    As of right now he ended DACA. There is no "kick the DACA can down the road" because there was no DACA can to begin with until Trump announced its end
     
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    We are all civilized apes that should constantly strive for better human endeavors. No one is addressing the huge oversteps of Obamas admin that gave us Trump. Really wish we could have elected someone sensible, but then, if folks aren't getting the message with someone as extreme as trump, then there would be nothing conveyed with a rand Paul presidency.
     
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    You are probably oblivious to the fact that Obama was extremely polarizing and that trump is actually a centrist.
     
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    According to who, dinosaur media? Did you notice how early exit polls had trump getting decimated? What changed with such a huge margin once working folks got off work and voted? You guys are missing the clear message from the voters. Hence, Pelosi still in dem leadership.
     
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    If Trump keeps making deals with Dems...you may see the GOP backing impeachment
     
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    Hee put DACA in the legislative hands. He can't continue it as it wasn't legal when Obama did it. He merely gained 6 months of readiness before courts shot it down and had a dumpster fire of government readiness for deportation.

    It seems the wall will happen, but it will be little use without cancelling three illegal immigration magnet. So far, he has done admirably as far as adherence to campaign promises in the face of such bipartisan establishment opposition.

    As far as a fiscal showdown, it's terrible timing considering the natural disasters that have happened and ate imminent. I find his decisions on that aspect presidential.
     
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    FOR blew goat balls and is the father of this shitdom of unfunded liabilities.
     
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    And what does that have to do with the Post you responded to? Did you read it?

    Obama was polarizing because he was black. Nothing polarizes this nation like black v white.
     
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    I hated Obamas policies. I could care less what ethnicity his parents were. It's sad that people continue troll the race issue.

    The statement related to your post in that Obama abused power in many ways that was off putting to a large portion of the populace, yet I haven't noticed near the overreach by Trump.
     
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    Not much Obama can do about that. He governed pretty much with the policies he campaigned on. So if that's the reason why you say that Obama was divisive, your case is very weak.

    I'm not talking about "overreach". I'm talking about abuse of power. And if you don't know what I mean you probably don't follow the news much, then. Examples abound. You might want to start by looking up the reason he gave for firing the FBI director. That's a pretty clear-cut example of abuse of power.
     
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    It is clearly within his defined powers to fire the fbi director. Please give me a better example. I have several against Obama considering he had numerous policies and decisions judicially overturned, and several that are currently still being challenged. Additionally, he actively used executive departments to penalize his perceived opponents. Give me something on par with the IRS scandal, and I'll trade notice.
     
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    Heh, no, it's not. We are legion
     
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    Agreed. My personal favorites(even though I wasn't there at the time) were Eisenhower and Kennedy. In the "modern" era, I'd say Bill Clinton is still the best of a crappy bunch of Presidents. And that's largely because Reagan is responsible for Iran-Contra, and the current geopolitical establishment in Washington DC.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, Clinton survived. Donald has far less chance to be impeached than did Bill Clinton.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was lukewarm to Trump at one point. I voted for him in November. However as I see the dirty politics of democrats play out, how the media that loved Obama hates Trump, I am so strong for Trump right now that he can get off on a speeding ticket and I don't mind.

    Clinton shall remain but one of the two presidents that were impeached.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reagan by virtue of a presidential finding, which is legal, approved very late tow to Iran.l So what? Reagan wanted our hostages released and the tow is a low grade weapon. As to Contra, Reagan never got involved in that. But had he done so, I would support his fight against the communists Sandinistas.

    All in all, BAR none, Reagan is still this nations finest of all time presidents. Better than Washington was and far better than outlaw Abe Lincoln.
     

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