Breaking: Satellite images reveal US forces operating freely in ISIS areas

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If anyone with a sense of right and wrong is considered an agent, then I guess I'm an agent. So while I persist in truth, you persist in lies... and we know who the father of all lies is:


    Yeah, it's me again
    [​IMG]
    The father of all lies
    And up to no good
     
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    Russian lieutenant-general killed in ISIS shelling near Deir ez-Zor, and this at the time that intelligence has shown that the US is working with ISIS. It means this is probably where ISIS got the information from.

    This is very bad news for relations between the two countries. Expect attacks on American forces in the area in retaliation.
     
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  3. Max Rockatansky

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    Da! Spasiba, comrade.

    Outside of Russia's propaganda website, is there any evidence the US is supporting ISIS terrorists?
     
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    The US attitude and policies towards ISIS aren't consistent nor always in one clear direction. That would be the most accurate synopsis of the issue. The forces fighting under the ISIS banner include many figures who have ties to the US from the days of America's so-called "Redirection" and the so-called "Sons of Iraq". There are also American policy-makers who share Israel's publicly repeated attitude towards ISIS, which is that they prefer ISIS in Syria to Iran and that ISIS's defeat in Syria and Iraq will help Iran's position in those countries. This has also complicated the fight against ISIS in the past, including in Iraq were some Iranian backed offensives against ISIS were (to put it mildly) made more "complicated" by US actions and American interventions. And the same in Syria. Especially in the area in question here (Deir ez-Zor), since this is the area where the US/Israel are focusing on in their machinations against Iran. But slowly but surely, the area is being cleansed and liberated.
    This is a Syrian report about fighting in the areas in question posted today:
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-iranian-armed-drones-strike-isis-near-syria-iraq-borders/
    VIDEO: Iranian armed drones strike ISIS near Syria-Iraq borders

     
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  5. Max Rockatansky

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    The same type of argument was used to say the US was really supporting al-Qaeda. Not true. Sure, the US did support Mujahideen guerrillas against the Soviet invaders. Yes, some of those guerrillas eventually turned into al-Qaeda terrorists but that's like saying the US secretly behind the USSR pointing nukes at the US in the 1950s because it supported them against the Nazis in the 1940s.
     
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    The US wants the oil and gas rich area of Deir ezzor for a Israeli friendly Kurdish state. By creating a Kurdish state in that area, it would weaken Damascus economically, and also form a Sunni wedge between Syria and Iran.

    Russia on the other hand, entered the fighting in Syria so as to keep the Shia crescent intact, since it protects their southern flanks from being infiltrated by the Takfiri terrorists from the Gulf states. It was these Gulf terrorists supported by the CIA, that caused the wars in Chechnya, and Russia wants no more of it.

    Now that the Syrian army is advancing and freeing the Deir ezzor, the US is giving ISIS its support to keep Damascus from taking back the area. According to Greek pronews, the death of the Russian commander looks very suspicious, and it will accentuate the friction between Russia and the US. I assume there will be retaliation on the Americans in Syria, so everyone hold on to your hats.
     
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    Don't ever accuse me of lying. Ever.

    The original article has been edited. Images are different. I don't have time now for details, but a closer look reveals that there are differences in both the cardinal directions and the names of the areas. For instance, one of the images in the original article mentions al-Shadadi, which is not in ISIL territory. The name disappeared on the edited RT article you linked to, but it seems that al-Sabaa wa Arbain is mentioned instead. I need a detailed Syrian map to make heads and tails of this.

    Journalistic ethics demands the newspaper publishes an explanatory note about the changes. I didn't find any.

    I'm not very fond of BBC myself (though I wouldn't go so far as to accuse them of constantly lying and knowingly deceiving all the way), but they're not the source for the map. The source is IHS Conflict Monitor.
     
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    On a related note, watch ISIS fighters meeting death bravely and rushing into the arms of their 72 virgins, not.



    Sound like a bunch of 12 year olds.
     
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    Does not fit CNN pattern, right?
     
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    You seem to be mischievously missing the point that Islamic State is our enemy not the effing LDPR (whatever the **** that might be). You really can't bear the thought that the Russians and not the US are leading the way can you? It is really pathetic - even childlike.
     
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    Well that's a very thought-provoking contribution to the thread I must say! :wall:
     
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    If we said, a few years ago, that Israel all but created Hamas, woldyou be surprised?

    It's not that the US is friendly with ISIL, it's just that... they happen to have the same enemy, you know? And that enemy also happen to be Israel and the Sauds' enemy; the secular governance of Assad.

    It's machiavelian politics at its most grotesque.
     
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    It has nothing to do with politics, it's about religion, and jihadist Islamists hate all other religions, and are determined to dispose of them all. [​IMG] Actually in a way I wish they would do exactly that.
     
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    If you didn't saw them then, what insures me that you are going to acknowledge them now?

    I believe the US fights ISIL in Iraq, but aid them behind the scenes in Syria. The US' main target in Syria is Assad, in a Saud/zionist effort to divide, destabilize the region and get rid of secular Arabic regimes for their satanic majesties' requests (to quote the 'Stones). It's as old as Machiaveli - The enemy of my enemy sht.

    Israel, the Sauds and ISIL are allies of convenience. Just read the writing on the wall.
     
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    What's the Turkish position? It's obvious that US/Israel are trying to establish the Kurdish state in your neighbourhood. Are you going to try to stop them or you will simply back off under the US pressure.
     
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    As if there isn't always enough **** going on in the accursed ME region the Americans can always be relied upon to come along and make it worse?
     
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    Thanks for asking...

    Turkish military has been exercising for "8" consecutive days right at the border gate to KRG called "Habur". That seems it is an intimidation against the latest referendum the Barzani administration has declared to have some months ago and have been ongoing now, however, considering such prolonged military exercise along with the already locked military units down at the "Silopi" area that many experts think they have been stationed to start "Tigris Shield" in an effort to cut right through KRG - YPG settlements in both countries, I think we can't talk about any back offs there.

    More importantly, at the end of June of this year we talked to our counterparts in Tehran in detail about what could have been done in terms of getting this referendum thing back around to our advantage and then were invited by our Iranian friends to have talks in Tehran in the very beginning of July. The Deep Iran promised us they were going to back us against Western plans in KRG and in very short while they summoned Iraqi ambassador to Tehran. Then Iraqi ambassador spoken Iranian newspapers that they wouldn't recognize no referendum in the north of the country and that any referendum that was not authorized by Baghdad was illegal. Later on the same month we saw Iran cutting KRGs water (Zapsuyu). Turkiye's main driving dynamics are pushing their own realities in the region so strongly that now Syria declared they would only recognize a "unitary Iraq". Besides, Iraqi, Turkish and Iranian officials gathered in New York city a week ago and officially declared that they would not officially recognize the result of the referendum. All these are clear indicators to get you an idea about what Turkiye's position is I guess :)
     
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    ISIS/Daesh is, indeed, our enemy. Russians are not our friends although, like the Chinese, they could be our business partners. That'll never happen with ISIS since rabid dogs can never be friends, partners or anything more than a threat.

    Your comment about "leading the way" is interesting. Leading the way in supporting mass murderers? Leading the way in spreading their dark influence across the Middle East? Please explain what you'd like to see happen in the ME over the next 10 years.
     
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    "Leading the way", as in supporting Assad at ALL costs, if Assad should fall, then all bets are off, Russia may/will lose its remaining foothold in the ME, and would make Russia look weak, in which case the knives would possibly be out for Putinka in the long run. Imho.
     
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    The point is ISIS is a world wide officially designated terror organization (unlike LDPR) and this thread post is a proof that it has actually been a US proxy !
     
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    I keep hoping he either dies of excess or someone inside the Kremlin whacks him. OTOH, if someone does take him out, there's no guarantee they'll be any better. Russia is obviously a mess. They had a chance to be free and then gave it all back to a dictator.
     
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    No wonder Turkey is such a mess and will probably implode due to radical Islam.
     
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    We created them, protect and facilitate them.
    The Kerry, Clinton, McCain, Obama regime change dream team
     
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    If that was true, it would be revealed as a crime against humanity and those you named imprisoned for terrorism. Obviously it's not true since such conspiracy theories would require thousands of people to maintain.
     
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    Or maybe we are winning and ISIS is hiding?
     

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