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Do people here really not know what Colin Kaepernick is protesting?

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  1. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Serious question, for those looking for a defense to an argument?

    Colin Kaepernick said he was protesting Police Brutality against Unarmed Black Men.

    • Colin Kaepernick never once said he was protesting Civilian Violence.
    • Colin Kaepernick never once said he was protesting The American Flag.
    • Colin Kaepernick never once said he was protesting The National Anthem.
    • Colin Kaepernick never once said he was protesting The Military or its Soldiers.

    So please defend your argument that Colin Kaepernick is protesting anything other than what he said he was protesting. So if you have "Documented Proof" or "Video Evidence" of Colin Kaepernick or anyone else who is protesting along side these sports protestors, actually saying they are protesting Civilian Violence, The American Flag, The National Anthem or The Troops ... please provide your evidence.

    Remember ... this Thread is about what Colin Kaepernick and The Protest Movement and why they are taking a Knee.

    Bring it ...
     
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    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    They only things they can bring necessitate dismissing the actual complaint.

    And bales of straw.
     
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    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't care what he was protesting - I do care about the way he did it by disrespecting the flag - and I'm pissed at the NFL, NFL owners and NFL coaches for allowing such blatant disrespect to the Flag.

    I won't try to fathom what this millionaire jocks problem is, but If he wants to protest, he could do it somewhere away from the football field - maybe at the local police station or at the local town hall or at the mayors house. Maybe he could go to those places where so called police brutality happens and do his protest there.

    Just as this guy has taken a knee to the flag, I have taken a knee to the NFL. I have not watched an NFL game in several weeks and I will never watch one again - ever. Thank you god for college football.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Different Thread; this Thread is about what Colin Kaepernick and The Protest Movement and why they are taking a Knee.

    Yes or NO .... is it about Police Brutality against Unarmed Black Men?
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Is Kaepernick protesting? Haven't seen Colin in a while. Best of luck to him, wherever he is, and whatever he's protesting.
     
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    Trump made this about authoritarianism. He wants to be able to order them to stand. He wants absolute power.

    Such a little Hitler.

    Because of Trump and his supporters, I will never stand for or salute the flag again. It means nothing. It is a relic of history.
     
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    Sorry this is all about disrespecting the flag , the anthem and military soldiers no.matter how you despertly want to change it, that ship has sailed .
     
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    Bear513 Banned

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    Btw even your fellow lefties want to change what they are protesting


     
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  9. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously, HOW does peacefully taking a Knee Disrespects anyone?

    At the same time, there are people taking a Piss, a **** or just talking during The

    I wish Trump would Order me to Stand ... I love to tell him personally what I think.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually it's you and people like you who are desperately trying to control people they can't control and it driving you crazy.
     
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    In his own words this is why he kneeled:

    Kaepernick had been sitting during the national anthem for two games before someone asked him about it. He didn’t tell the media his plans. After a San Francisco preseason game against the Green Bay Packers, NFL.com’s Steve Wyche specifically asked Kap about it. Here’s what he said:


    I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football, and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.

    —AUG. 26, 2016

    http://www.theroot.com/please-stop-defending-colin-kaepernick-youre-doing-it-1818999019
     
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    Everyone knows why Kap took the knee, however, it does not suit their narrative so they continue with fake news.
     
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  13. Cigar

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    What's more important to you? A Flag or it's People?

    The Protest is about Injustice against Black People through Police Brutality.

    If you see disrespect against the Flag while not seeing Injustice against Black People, then the hell with your Flag.

    One comes before the other, there is not Flag without people to defend it.

    If the Protest was against the Flag, Black People would have never stood for it.
     
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    Excuse me, since when does people like me try to control anyone and how does it drive us crazy?

    Let's here specifics..
     
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    Kaepernick clearly was protesting cops. I don't think all the others know exactly what they are protesting -- they mumble stuff like social injustice and unity, badly feeding the myth of dumb jocks. But the good question is why make their protest with the flag and anthem. Why don't they all show up at the morning opening of the supermarket? Why not the band at halftime? Why not the TV interviews after the game? Why not go to wherever they find "social injustice," whatever they mean by that? Why not Saturday protest kneelings in front of a police station?
     
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    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Disrespecting the military soldiers; you mean, something along the lines of "I like people who aren't captured"? Let me guess. You're okay with disrespecting the Prisoners of War. Color me shocked.
     
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    How am I to take this serious when it's just another racially charged Cigar post! Dude have you nothing more than this tired old genre in the head of yours?
     
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    Oh you leftist :) Gotta love how the left levy personal accusations against folk because of something another man says :)

    Then again how serious do you take a person that confesses they must GUESS to build a accusation LMFAO :)
     
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    That and military guys that don't almost sink one of our own aircraft carriers ...lets see Trump and sell out McCain was having a spat as two elected representatives and you want to just imply John was just a vet?
     
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    Please prove that police are attacking unarmed black men.
     
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    It's really not about John, Trump or even you bro! The poster has been found out and is now in a state of transition to their rightful group of leftist sheeple, a little over compensation is to be expected as the inner conflict subsides, so be patient if possible ;)
     
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    But it was okay for Johnny Quest to say **** about Trump. Then play Never Trumper after feigning like he would work with Trump.

    Now remove Trump from the equation and let it just be Johnny and a Vet from the same time, into personal exchange of words, and the **** that would be said about each other, that only other Veterans could get away with saying something to one another. Wherein no civilian would be tolerated to even try.
     
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    McCain was a POW. He was captured. I like people who were captured. President Trump doesn't like POWs. He said so.
     
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    Johnny Quest never said anything about his fellow POWs.

    I gather you voted for Obama in 2008?
     
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