Trump want's 10X more nukes

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice to see Obama bowing to Trump.
     
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    such a short memory... it's nuclear disarmament that led to the end of the cold war... the repercussions of more nuclear weapons obviously escapes Trump
     
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    Or not - MAD makes any such build-up useless. This isn't WWII-type warfare; The wars of the future are going to be about data, nuclear weapons making actual, physical wars a thing of the past. Like I wrote in another thread, God created men, but it was col. Colt who made them equals. Likewise, Men created nations, but it was Oppenheimer who made them equals.
     
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    Pretty sure this is junk news.
     
  5. SiNNiK

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    It takes boots on the ground to win a war.
     
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    I'd feel much more comfortable with whole this story if we had an actual quote.

    That being said; even if Trump said it, he knows better now. He's never said this publically, ever, so it doesn't seem to be his policy. If I remember correctly his "tip top shape" stance has been told since the campaign.
     
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    I thought PBS already documented this as junk news.

    Trump does want to spend money on the nuclear arsenal, but certainly not 10x as this was billed.
     
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    Yeah I think they did.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...port-wanted-big-increase-u-s-nuclear-weapons/

    So have some other news organizations. But people don't believe what Trump says. Everything is over analyzed these days.

    Trump may very well say he wants 10X more budget spent on our nuclear arsenal.

    We have no context to even judge a statement like that. The media shouldn't be reporting off it unless they have more information to give us. Speculation isn't news.

    We have no Idea what's being spent now. We have no idea of any of our capabilities. I know most of our nuclear arsenal was built on 90s tech. While NK Russia and China all have modern platforms. So I can't image we are spending much.
     
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    Do you trust Mattis when he says Iran is abiding by the terms of the nuclear deal?
     
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    By far ...beyond a shadow of a doubt...without reservation...Trump is the dumbest POS to ever sit in The Oval Office.
     
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    Utopia always sounds so great doesn't it?

    Here in the real world, I want the biggest stick
     
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    You fell for fake news.
     
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    He's behind Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
     
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    Pure idiocy. It's not utopian, feel good nonsense to want nations to limit responses so they don't cause the EXTINCTION OF MANKIND. You wanting the bigger stick is fine. IF you think a response that can threaten life on this planet is ok, you're literally insane and should be institutionalized.
     
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    How much does that cost, and can we have one?
     
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    Called running on empty :)
     
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    The real question is, has anyone in resent time honestly believed Iran has lived up to any agreement concerning the pursuit a nuclear weapon(s)? Also is there really people that naïve to believe if capable that Iran wouldn't sacrifice it's self in the name of Allah.
     
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    1. So Mattis is lying when he says they are abiding by their end of the deal?

    2. Iran has the means to commit suicide in name of Allah right now. They could blanket Israel in missiles with nerve gas warheads and wipe out the “Little Satan” any time they wanted.

    So why haven’t they if your claim is true?
     
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    So finally Bushy Jr gets an upgrade :) He and Jimmy Carter should go out and celebrate. Two party reprieve in nine years, thats gotta be a Guinness record!
     
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    Dude. Stop spreading your BS lies.
    Find the report where Trump "IGNORED" Mattis Recommendation.

    Trump has multiple people advising him on Foreign Policy and National Defense with a wide variety of viewpoints.
    The decision is ultimately up to the President to make.

    You saying Trump ignored and had no faith in Mattis is dishonest, hate-filled lie.
     
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    It's not that Mattis is lying, it's as it's always been with Iran, no one can secure details because the are covert and not transparent, it's that simple! Until they allow full access to restricted area's nobody knows anything really, and frankly, if they're compliant, what's to hide, right?

    And for why they haven't, simple, Thermal Nuclear is the gold standard for destruction, negotiation or strong arm demands not necessarily in that order :)
     
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    Because intelligence is impossible to gather about covert or secure locations?

    Nuclear weapons would result in the destruction of the third most holy site in Islam. Nerve agents insure Israel is destroyed without damaging Muslim holy skates. So why haven’t they done it?
     
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    I don't thing they are concerned with destruction man :)

    Are you stating or questioning? I'm going with the latter, yes intel is impossible when there are covert and secure area's, hopefully your not benighted in the history of Iran over the last 50 years?
     
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    Islamic fanatics aren’t concerned with the destruction of Islamic holy sites?

    Are you seriously claiming that intelligence sources have never been garnered from secure covert locations? Pray tell, how many years have you worked in intelligence?
     
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    Well I gave you a chance at rational but clearly you are a stunning case of

    You just believe what you need to slick ;)
     
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