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That particular chicken and egg is a loser for you and yours. But for the calculated smear attempt, none of the backlash that followed would have occurred.

There is no reliable evidence of any "repeated lies" by POTUS with respect to this matter. The American voter is seeing a crass, political trick unfold, and like all the other obvious tricks that failed, this one is failing too. I recall how the Khizr Khan scam at the convention was supposed to be "the end for Trump." Once the other shoe dropped, the man's flagrant conflict of interest as an immigration lawyer/lobbyist outed, together with his lie about having his travel privileges pulled, that became a liability. In this case, Protip, pick other than a partisan Doody Hat buffoon who has always voted Nay on veteran bills and recently claimed Trump was on the "brink of impeachment" to do the dirty work. Fail all around.

 

How do you know Kelly was listening in? He never said that in his remarks. He said he talked to Trump about how to handle the calls.

And Kelly did not step out and make the conversation between himself and Trump known until *AFTER* Wilson attacked Trump by taking a single phrase out of context!

The *entire* context of what Trump said was like this: "He knew what he signed up for but willing stepped forward as a HERO!". Only those with Trump Derangement Syndrome would believe Trump would call a Gold Star widow simply to denigrate her husband and the way he died.

It was *still* a PRIVATE CONVERSATION between Trump and the widow. It was simply not Rep Wilson's place to make any part of that conversation known to the public let alone use just one out-of-context phrase for crass political purposes!

 

How do *YOU* know Kelly was in the room for the conversation? I can't find that fact reported anywhere let alone stated by Kelly or Trump.

You are trying to rationalize the bad actions of Rep Wilson.

 

Take it up with donald for smearing a gold star mother for insisting she is lying about what donald said.

We know that Wilson, and the gold star mother, both confirm that donald said he must've known what he was getting into.

We know Kelly heard the call and had a chance to deny Wilson's statement as to what donald said, but did not.

We know that Kelly admitted he coached donald to say words similar to those donald said.

We know donald claimed he had proof that Wilson "totally fabricated" what he said, and has utterly failed to provide such proof.

And we know that donald is a serial, pathological liar who lies constantly and about everything.

That's enough for me. I'm sure it won't be enough for you and the other donald adorers.

 

She *did* lie about what Trump said. That's what the left and the MSM DOES. They take a single phrase, not even a complete sentence, out of context and use it to attack the person speaking.

Kelly corroborated that Wilson lied by omission. The fact that you don't recognize that is a symptom of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

You would rather believe the claim by Wilson that Trump called the widow to denigrate the service of her dead husband! That is just *sick*!

 

Because he was in the room while trump made the call and commented as to the essence of what donald said. Was Kelly lying?

WHERE'S THE PROOF donald claimed he had that Wilson "totally fabricated" what he said.

I disagree. She was in the car while donald made the statement that the wife put on speakerphone. There's no evidence that the wife asked her to keep what donald said private.

And it s was *still* a lie by donald to accuse Wilson of "totally fabricating" what Wilson said.

 

I'm sorry, I didn't ask you for your say so. I asked WHERE'S THE PROOF donald said he had that Wilson "completely fabricated" and "lied" about what donald said.

Kelly had every chance to say that donald never said what Wilson said he said. But he did not do it.

You would rather believe the known pathological liar who is our president than a gold star family member who you smear and which is corroborated by Gen. Kelly. That is just *sick*!

 

Trying to extend a rebuttal to a partisan political attack from a frequent source of such to cover a "gold star mother" under the influence of the Congresswoman who was -inexplicably- on the call is a canard that no one is buying. Keep waving that flag though, you aren't fooling anyone.

None of the rest reliably documents -any- lies by POTUS. Most of all, we have only a single, out of context phrase from a five minute call that you and yours are hanging your silly-looking hats on. People see right through the cherry-picking and quote mining you and yours have become known and discredited for. No one's buying. Again, pick a more credible hack next go round and provide some context. Smear didn't work, but is probably deflecting from the uranium scandal, which is what this is really about. So good job there.

 

Reference? Do you have a news report stating this? I can't find one. A video would be even better.

I think you've convinced yourself that this happened with absolutely no substantiation at all!

Google "lie by omission".

go here: www.reference.com/government-politics/lie-omission-c9740e1f75e5556c

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What is a lie of omission?
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A lie of omission is a lie in which someone deliberately withholds pertinent details about something in order to skew someone else's idea of the truth or engender a misconception. Although a lie of omission is not technically a lie because it contains no false information, it is still referred to as one colloquially because it is deliberately misleading.
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There were TWO people involved in that call. Trump and the widow! There is no evidence that Trump did not consider the call to be private! In most state *both* participants have to agree that a call is not private before it can be taped or its contents divulged.

Yes, of course. According to you and Wilson and the left and the MSM Trump called the widow to denigrate her husband and laugh at her grief!

You are SICK!

 

Trump has never said the widow is lying. He is saying Rep Wilson is lying. Put down the whiskey bottle!

But not the Gold Star widow! And we don't know what influence Rep Wilson might have had on either one of them!

Again, how do we know this. I keep asking but you never provide a reference. I can't find one. Where is *your* corroboration on this?

And we are now supposed to believe that Kelly coached Trump on how to denigrate Staff Sergeant Johnson?

We know the gist of what he said. And we know that Wilson took one single phrase out of a whole conversation. And we know you want us to believe that Trump called the widow to denigrate her husband and his service. That's just SICK!

Really? Did he lie about Obama not calling Gen Kelly? Get help, your TDS is subsuming your mind.

Denigrating a President by claiming he called a Gold Star widow just to denigrate her husband and his service is just sick. It is sick for you to do it. It is sick for Rep Wilson to do it.

 

The White House does not have a recording of President Trump's call to the widow of a slain U.S. soldier, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday.

Sanders cited the presence of chief of staff John Kelly when asked for proof that Trump did not tell the widow of Army Sgt. La David Johnson that "he knew what he signed up for."

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...-when-trump-called-soldiers-widow-white-house

Kelly added, "That's what the president tried to say to the four families."
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/19/kel...-cant-even-imagine-how-to-make-that-call.html

Was Kelly lying about what the president tried to say? Or just guessing?

Trump said he had proof Wilson "totally fabricated" what he said.

WHERE'S THE PROOF?

Or was he lying about that too?

You are trying to rationalize the lying of the pathological liar in chief.

 

Your belief that Kelly told Trump to call the Gold Star widow and denigrate her husband and his service *IS* sick. Get help.
Your belief that Trump *did* call the Gold Star widow just to denigrate him and his service *IS* sick. Get help.

 

See links in my immediately preceding post.

I disagree. I've cited numerous sources.

I know what a lie by omission is. Where is the lie by omission?

Nope. According to the WH, there were several people with donald during the call, and several family members and Wilson in the car during the call.

Now you are falsifying my statements, as is usual with conservatives who can't legitimately defend their claims.

I of course never claimed donald called the widow to denigrate her husband and laugh at her grief.

 

Nothing in this says Kelly was in the room when the phone call was made. Once again, you are seeing phantoms.

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"But to help Trump prepare for the calls, Kelly explained to the president what he himself had been told in a phone call after his son Robert Kelly was killed in combat in Afghanistan.

"He was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed," Kelly said, recalling what his best friend, Gen. Joe Dunford, now chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff had told him. "He knew what he was getting into by joining that one percent. He knew what the possibilities were, because we were at war. And when he died he was surrounded by the best men on this earth."

Kelly added, "That's what the president tried to say to the four families.""
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Kelly knew what the President was trying to get across because he counseled him on what to say. That in no way means Kelly was in the room when the call was made!

We now know that she took one phrase out of context to create a lie by omission. That *is* lying about what Trump did.

And you are still trying to prove that Trump called the widow with Kelly in the room in order to denigrate her husband and his service.

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Again you make false statements. I've never stated that was my belief.

Another conservative making **** up about what I said because they can't defend their hero, the pathological liar in chief. SSDD.

 

Kelly counseled the President on what to say. That is what your own reference says!

You are still trying to defend your belief that the President and Kelly called the widow to denigrate her husband and his service.

Sick. That's the only way it can be described.

 

Your sources don't corroborate what you are claiming. There is no statement that Kelly was in the room when the calls were made.

By Wilson not also including that Trump said the soldier was a hero. Those who know they might die and still go ahead *are* hero's. By just taking the leading phrase and emphasizing it you lose the context of the entire comment.

It's a crass attempt to get the public to believe that Trump called the widow to denigrate her husband and to gloat over his death.

It's sick. It's as sick as you trying to claim that is what Trump did!

I can't find any reference for this claim? Do you have one or is this just something you believe? Do you even know what room he called from? In a large room several people can be present but not privy to the contents of a private call!

Then what is your point? That *is* what Rep Wilson is trying to accomplish. Getting the public to believe Trump called the widow to denigrate her husband and laugh at her grief!

What point do you think you are trying to get across her? If Trump did *NOT* call the widow to denigrate her husband and laugh at her grief then Wilson *DID* lie about what Trump said!

And then Trump was *correct* saying Wilson lied about what he said!

 

If that is *NOT* your belief then you must then believe Wilson *is* lying. And if Wilson *is* lying then Trump was correct in saying Wilson falsified what he said. What he *said* includes *everything* he said. Not just a phrase taken out of context!

And so your claim Trump lied is incorrect!

 

You mean the private conversation that apparently at least Kelly was listening in on. And probably a couple more Trump minders as well.

That's stupid since Trump started it by lying about Obama and all past presidrnts never calling the next of kin.

 

Guess what. We now have irrefutable proof that Kelly lied. Now we see if he is a man or a Trump.

 

Well you can try all you want to put a good spin on Trump's stupidity but somehow it won't hunt.

 

Please post the exact conversation. You obviously have info that neither the widow or the congresswoman or anyone in the car actually experienced.

 

Sarah Huckabee-Sanders said Kelly was in the room with Trump as well as other people. Was she lying?

The private conversation between Trump and the widow was her private conversation, and she wanted other people to hear it, including the Congresswoman. She gave the Congresswoman permission to share the details with the press. That's not your call to say it should have stayed private. It was her call.

 

And you can continue to say that Trump called the widow to denigrate her husband and laugh about his death but that won't hunt either!

 

Again, there are two people involved in a private conversation. And I can find nothing that says the widow wanted Rep Wilson to publicize the conversation, only the widow's mother. Do you have a reference showing otherwise?

It was Trump's call as well about it being private!

And it was Rep Wilson that turned that conversation into a crass political ploy to attack Trump through a lie by omission.