Teaching Conservatives With Illustrations

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That's you negotiating with your employer. That can't be compared to a movement of people who want equal treatment from our government.
    BLM isn't burning their neighborhood down - they are using various methods of communication short of that.

    Maybe you could provide maps concerning where minorities can move in order to not be treated with disrespect.

    That would help in identification of the other places - the places where we have to fix the police forces.
     
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    That's not my problem because I'm not black. If they want to look at a map and research this stuff, then the internet isn't going to tell them "sorry, but this site is restricted to white users".

    Where can "minorities" move? You mean like men? We are the minority compared to women. Or maybe you mean minorities, as in "I'm a white guy who has never been divorced and raised my children without having to lean on the tax payers to pay for their cheerios".

    I'm a minority, and I decided where I want to live without the help of internet people. I'm sure that blacks can do the same.
     
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    Right, like calling for death to cops and demanding white people leave their houses to black and brown people in their wills...

    3.) A Black Lives Matter protest featured a “fry ’em like bacon” chant about police officers.

    The St. Paul, Minn. chapter of the movement held a protest in 2015 where demonstrators chanted “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon” as they marched the streets.
    https://libertyunyielding.com/2017/...ives-matters-looniest-statements-anniversary/

    Chanelle Helm got off to a rousing start in her piece for Leo Weekly by telling white people with no descendants to “will your property to a black or brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty.”
    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...requests-for-white-people-and-theyre-doozies/

    “To me, what the Houston, Texas, brutal execution before the public represents to me is it’s open season on killing whites and white police officers, and probably killing cops period,”
    https://gruntstuff.com/video-statement-from-blm-member-its-open-season-on-cops-and-white-people/
     
  4. Polydectes

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    No they don't. Nobody's outraged when people die in prison nobody is outraged when people die of cancer or flu or in car accidents. So if they wanted to call there group the only lives that matter are black ones extinguished by police that would at least be honest.

    that's exactly the point of it. It's not all black lives because f*** the black people that died and car accidents or at the hand of other black people. So I view the whole movement is disingenuous.

    the Catalyst for this whole thing was Michael Brown a thug who is beating the Daylights out of a police officer trying to take his gun and the police officer shot him. Why don't they give a s*** about the police officer that could have lost his life yes it is saying black lives matter more. But not all black lives the lives of criminals that will take on the police with deadly force.

    They aren't fighting for responsible police work. Have you read their demands?

    I would I agree but I don't see that happening.
    maybe instead of the mantra "snitches get stitches" people in these communities can come up with one to tthew effect of "Real men raise their children" or "hard work pays off." That's a protest I could get behind.

    it ended years ago. The problem isn't discrimination it's culture.
     
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    Just to be clear, I'm not down with BLM.
     
  6. Polydectes

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    I don't believe the people saying there is a problem understand it. It seems like they are trying to scapegoat a imaginary institution of racism to avoid admitting the problems because the problems are not simple to solve.

    So if they want to fix the problem they must first admit there is one and it's not systemic racism.
     
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    they have better than equal treatment from our government. There are all these laws and made specifically to equalize black people.
    the message they're sending to me is it they want to rip this country to shreds I would have this vengeance for their ancestors. They would rather throw temper tantrums in the streets versus looking at where they are and figuring out how to better themselves.

    They can't communicate a message unless they know who Their audience is. I see violence I see threats against the police I see constant crybaby squawking about white privilege. My thoughts on that are go to hell.

    if people want their ass kissed because they're a minority, I can't think of anywhere. If they want equal opportunities then the United States is probably the best I'm not discounting some European countries either.

    aside from the police force being comprised of fallible humans I can think of very few problems that stomping down the street screaming kill cops will help.

    At best such an action will get you classified as a terrorist organization. I wouldn't be surprised if it could go as far as sedition.
     
  8. SiNNiK

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    Let me restate that, I expected denile, when it was not forthcoming I was delightfully surprised. While I do not agree with your response, I respect it.

    Better?
     
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    People believe what they are told, and hoodlums regardless of race creed or color lie and if they happen to be black they will play the race card.

    By way of example:
    African-American criminal: Man you just bustin' my chops because l'm black.

    Cop: No sir I am arresting you for the robbery of a convenience store and the shooting of the clerk because you look exactly like the dude in the surveillance video shown doing it.
     
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    Then get together have a meeting and teach blacks not be obnoxious *******s and the world does not revolve around them.
     
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    The ones that are determined and or questioned at every police shooting.

    This isn't the 1940's any more. Every time there is a police involved shooting a full investigation is launched witness statements taken, and forensic evidence is collected. A woe be be unto that cop whose story doesn't match that evidence.
     
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    But it is largely absent because people in the 'hood understand the phrase snitches get stitches and that the cops can't be everywhere. It isn't so much that they don't trust the cops as it is that they are scared to death of the gangs. This fact of life is largely ignored by BLM and BLM is a heavy though hopefully unintentional contributor to gang violence.
     
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    What a joke of a response.
     
  15. WillReadmore

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    You're making gigantic assumptions here.

    Every community wants good policing. And, the issues of retribution for snitching are not specific to any population. They are present in your community, too.
     
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    Sure, you would like this to boil down to some story you concoct.

    But, the catch is there is actual data showing that police in specific departments DO treat minorities unequally.
     
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    what I've seen is long on assumptions and short on facts. And a lot of the data used is often so antiquated as to useless.
     
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    uh no most neighborhoods don't have organized criminal gamgs
     
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    Ineffective policing is one of the contributors to that.

    If you limit the comparison to those who are poor you get a different picture.

    All populations need effective policing. And, issues such as budget for training, pay and staffing are contributors.

    We should be more supportive of our police.

    My own opinion is that factors of low pay, on the spot required overtime, etc., add to an already difficult profession - making problems more likely.

    I took a night class with a policeman from a Seattle area police department. He missed a LOT of classes (in a subject the force wants him to take), because low staffing resulted in him pulling extra duty that left him with low time for his family. If two officers were out due to being ill, court dates, vacation, etc., he would be called in for extra duty and his family was without him. He missed class due to stuff like standing by a dead body to ensure custody.
     
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    I agree we need more data.

    The CDC (for one) is being constrained. Also, police departments are not being required to divulge information that is important - such as firearms discharges in public.
     
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    They get designated differently when it's white collar.
     
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    white collar isn't generally a gang thing. It's generally one jackass with a pencil cooking the books
     
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    It's also collusion between companies, other market manipulation (such as dumping), increasing externalities (such as dumping of waste), cheating on inspections, labor practices, etc., etc.
     
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    Sorry but those are a different classification of crime. And some of those aren't even crimes. White collar is insurance fraud, embezzlement and that sort of thing. all of it is non violent. Most of those things are violations of government regulations and are treated quite differently from crimes. For one thing they are largely enforced through the civil court system where the burden of proof is much lower.
     
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    This is about selective outrage regarding the claims of "institutional racism" behind the small fraction of numbers of blacks shot by cops as compared to each other.

    You will never see widespread outrage to the point of rioting when blacks are killed by blacks. They simply shake their heads and continue on to McDonald's.
     

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