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Nor do you get to decide for me. Let's do an experiment and ask 100 black people what they think it means.

 

Ask 100 blacks what n.iggardly means while you are at it and see if they get it right. Am I to change the meaning of things because of the ignorance of common misunderstanding? No.

 

Define "common misunderstanding."

 

Something widely misunderstood. Like the correct pronounciation of mauve. Am I to pretend to be ignorant and say "maav" to spare your feelings? Its "mov". And I will not pretend it isn't, just because you probably will try and correct me wrongly, and have to be corrected.

 

Depends on the crime. For a preplanned murder, except for any adult who honestly didn't know what they were doing was wrong (they had Down's syndrome, brain damage, they didn't lie about their crime, or run away from it, or hide evidence, etc.), yes execute them. Also execute all child rapists, carjackers and home invasion artists (with hard evidence).

However, I am liberal on crime. For violent first time offenders who assault others, rape adults, use armed robbery, etc.. I'd place them in a hardcore prison boot camp for about 6 months. If they commit another such violent crime anytime after that, they get 6 months in a chain gang doing hard labor. If they are convicted of a third or greater violent crime, then execute them without appeal within 6 months---as they should have rightly been executed after their first crimes.

 

The Bible and Qur'an both approve of slavery, and followers of those religions are too cowardly to simply improve said texts....I blame god/Jesus/Mohammad/Allah and their follower's lack of morality for this horrific atrocity.

 

NO MUSLIM COUNTRY EVER HAS!

 

Correct - yes, SJWs don't love women enough to take on Islam, don't love gays enough to take on Islam. Islam gets a pass because most of its followers have dark skin.

 

What's misunderstanding about keeping slavery?

 

Jesus in the Bible accepted slavery, so of course Christians can't condemn slavery too much. Jesus was evil....or at least not a caring/compassionate person, that much is obvious.
http://www.evilbible.com/?s=slavery

 

Thank, uh, god that we don't live under Sharia Law - Sharia Law APPROVES of slavery because Mohammad enslaved people, owned slaves (especially non-Muslims), and fully approved of slavery. A sane person would have said "work to end slavery w/in the next 30 years".....Mohammad didn't understand right from wrong, of course. To be fair, neither did god/Jesus, nor Moses.

 

Considering they added an amendment to the constitution regarding prohibiting alcohol(unless of course it was prescription) I’d say alcohol prohibition was inline with the constitution.

 

If you were gay you'd be fearful when you lived in Saudi - that's because Mohammad/Allah said to kill gays in the Islamic texts. Can you condemn Mohammad/Allah for saying to kill innocent people like that, Margot?

 

If these were WHITE people being enslaved would the Western world care more about this atrocity?

 

State vs Federal rights. That the men who fought and died for the south did so because slavery benefitted them. That the North considered blacks... it is a very rich and textured misunderstanding. Lincoln freed the slaves as a military strategy.

Abraham Lincoln

Robert E Lee

http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation

It is not black and white, pardon the pun.

 

What immediately comes after the passage from Lincoln you quoted:

 

Only those who had served. Yes, once he realized that it was logistically impossible to ship them all back to Africa, which was his original intent, he came around to agreeing with General Lee.

My point is, it is complicated, and textured. The sons of the south were by in large poor patriots who were defending the constitution from what they believed was a tyrannical federal government, overreaching well beyond their powers. Yes slavery was part of that. But distilling it into the enlightened north battling the evil south is a gross oversimplification of the times and conditions. You have every right to view the Virginia battle flag as a symbol of anything you like. You can wrongly call it the confederate flag, and try and paint all who do not embrace that ignorance as racists. I will not, however, pretend you are right because it is a sticky subject you prefer to believe was a binary condition of right and wrong.

 

"Defending the constitution" from a tyrannical federal government by serving a slavery-condoning government in their own right that couldn't even last a decade, all the while being traitors in the process.

 

The constitution gave providence for slavery, and rather than legislating through congress, the federal government took agressive military action against sovereign states. You call the defense of those states traitorous, and ignore the conditions of tyrany those men were the subjects of.

You get to. However you are not in a position to tell me what it symbolizes, any more than I am to tell you what it should mean to you. You have no authority to impose meaning, and you happen to be wrong and twisted in your beliefs.

 

does 'providence for slavery' mean the constitution allowed slavery since a good christian could own slaves at that time?

freedom fighters defended the constitution against england and later on against themselves in the civil war.

you have no authority to continue to support treason after being defeated by lawful government force.

 

Those same sovereign states pulled away to keep preserving slavery within their borders and waged war against the Union (effectively making them traitors), that much is clear.

 

Clear as mud. Sort of my point. You clearly enjoy this binary point of view. You don't seem very motivated to understand history. I don't see much point in continuing to derail the thread with this conversation.

 

There is already sufficient evidence of human trafficking in Caucasians around the world. Not sure, exactly what you're trying to get at here? The question is why did the US under Obama knowingly create this situation in Libya, and do nothing about it once they created it?

 

The US had nothing to do with the Arab spring in Libya.

 

Bye.