Why the progressive left is dying.

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Five years, that's it. It took only five years for the progressive movement to take over the DNC, push it's insanity unto the country under Obama's second term, then lose the country.

    Obama ran as a liberal in 2008 (which is why I was comfortable voting for him), but by the end of 2012, Obama gave away his true colors by pandering to the insanity of transgender rights, BLM, 3rd wave feminism, and pushing for mass refugees from war torn jihadi nations to enter our country.

    The American people, though, have soundly rejected the progressive movement, hence, Trump. Trump's rise and the fact he won 84% of the nation's counties is a clear mandate that either the DNC be politically purged of its progressives masters, or be doomed to become a regional city-based party.

    No responsible American could have voted for Hillary in 2016, nor can they vote for any Democrat again until progressives have been ousted. The same logic held true for the GOP-run Tea Party that I refused to vote for. Extremes are never good, and right now it is clear the DNC is falling into obscurity because the vast majority of Americans don't view them as a party loyal to country.

    The progressive ideology is antithetical to nationalism, which is why no one who cares about the well being of that nation can back them.
     
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    I think the country is not out of the woods yet with Progressives, and the Progressive Machine that promotes the agenda.

    With many $10's of billions behind the movement (Soros just pumped $18 billion into his Open Society Foundation), it should be expected they will be working harder than ever to regain momentum.

    This fact can be seen by the never ending attacks on the right, assisted by their MSM partners across all information spectrums.

    Eventually Progressivism will fail, like it always has, but only if everyday Americans stand up against it's liberal fascist actions.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's be honest, with Trump's less than desired business past, along with his attitude towards women, and the fact the media was 100% behind Hillary, and the fact they threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump yet lost, means all the money in the world doesn't change the fact the nation can't stand progressives. They're done as a movement.

    Expect to see a very moderate, liberal takeover of the DNC in the next four years.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF is that supposed to mean?
     
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    The Trumpers here seem to be equating more left leaning liberals with progressives and defining more conservative liberals as "liberal"

    Newsflash, Hillary is more conservative than Obama and even he wasn't way over on the left side of the spectrum

    You're just saying that you hate all Dems and are trying to stir shyte with this anti LGBT garbage
     
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    I'm not as convinced as you such a change will take place in only four years. Some of the names being pushed to the front on the left are solid, aligned Progressives. Warren, and Harris for example. Warren probably has little chance, but Kamala Harris is getting lots of attention.

    What people should be keeping their eyes on goes beyond that. Progressives are well represented Nationally and Globally.

    The UN, the whole Global Social Justice/Climate Change agenda, the World Economic Forum, and massive global migration movements, all are part of the Progressive Machine's playbook. With the backing of the major US Trusts, (Ford, Annenberg, Knight, MacArthur, Tides, etc.) and the major Public Employee Unions (SEIU, AFSCME, NEA) the amount of money available to push their propaganda is unprecedented. Throw in the effort of their MSM partners, and the radical alt-left Progressive effort remains more than just significant.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It means Trump is old school in his views of women and how he treats them. Face it, Trump doesn't view women the way feminists want us to view them; as equal to men (in every facet). Trump pushes gender roles and demands his women are like candles for show. I am not judging him on this, this is a consensual agreement with the women he is with.

    It drives feminists nuts, but the traditional minded would rather a patriarchy than a feminist utopia.
     
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    Wow...just wow
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cry more lol
    Not everyone has to think the way modern third wave feminists want them to.

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    I agree with much of what you have said - but I don't believe all of the problem is progressivism as much as it's the open borders stance and fealty to globalist corporations that has infested both parties and resulting in a Nationalist focus by the rank and file voters.
    Great post!
     
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    This is the quandary many normal Americans find themselves in.

    On the left, those who we could refer to 'classical liberals' are very uncomfortable with the progressivism in today's Democratic Party leadership. From First Amendment and other constitutional issues to social policy, classical liberals find themselves disagreeing with what has become core principles in the DNC platform.

    Those who consider themselves conservatives are also finding some of the same issues with the Republican Party. The drive to force their religious beliefs on conservatives at the expense of our core constitutional beliefs have put evangelicals outside the norm of most conservatives, who simply want Fed.gov to leave us alone.

    If there was ever a need for a third political party that promoted fiscal responsibility and removing the government from decisions of marriage and birth, it is now...
     
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    You wish to demoralize, longterm. AINT gonna happen. The pendulum will swing so wildly, that it will chop your heads clean off. LONGTERM. Due to the reputation of the Repubs being MUDD.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you're hinting at probable violence against non-progressives, it only shows the importance of the 2nd Amendment for self-defense.
    Thanks for showing a glimpse at the true progressive agenda.

    Unfortunately, guys like @Ronstar will not be reporting you to authorities since you are a progressive.
     
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    Progressives are chameleons, do not be fooled. They will continue and run as a democrat or independent but once in office they will vote and support for hard core progressive ideology.

    The cancerous progs are in the system and will thrive.The deep state is counting on it from cradle to grave.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a stinkin joke, your messiah called for DIRECT VIOLENCE on political opponents, even offering to PAY for blood, and you want to go after ME. WHAT A JOKE.
     
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    All of which you stated in the first paragraph is a product of liberalism, not progressivism. Measures like the Clean Air Act were more geared toward progressivism. I hate it when nationalists, of which ideology can be dangerous in itself, like the OP try to say this is the “progressive left” dying. No, it’s the “liberal left” that is dying. Waters, Pelosi, Schumer, they are all part of the liberal left, not the progressive left.

    And I speak of this as a progressive. It is also apparent nationalism is being confused with patriotism.
     
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    You think the left is dying? The right and left trade power all the time and now happens to be a low point for the left buts its all going to reverse itself in a few years. The left is and always will be very much alive and so will the right.
     
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    White liberal males should be put on the endangered species list, but NOBODY wants them (unless they are very rich) - least of all the Democratic Party.
     
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    Actually about 50% of young whites males are democrats. The democratic party has been losing appeal to older whites as it has been gaining with minorities and younger people.
     
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    I remember a union lawyer saying that in his opinion, $50,000 a year income is the point at which a person can afford to be a Republican. However, once a person reaches the multi-millionaire status, they can afford to be a Democrat.
     
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    What it is time for is for the real democrats to take back their party from the radical left progressives. They are the reason the democrat party is completely out of the three branches of government, and have lost 1000+ seats in state government. Time for democrats to throw out the likes of Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, Jackson, Franken, Bernie and those like the ding bat hat woman from Texas. Only then will real Americans even give a glimmer of attention to the democrat party.
     
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    polls showed 75% of straight white males voted for Trump.
    stop lying.
     
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    The last thing anyone needs is a far right wing Trump supporter defining who is and is not a "real Democrat"
     
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    Actually it was 62% for white men and only 52% for white women. Trump won by a 57 - 37% margin among whites but Hillary won by a 74 - 21% margin among non-whites and thats the problem. Whites just aren't republican enough and are shrinking.
     
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    Judgement and opinions comes from past actions, laws and policy. Democrats have been over taken by progs. I do believe most Democrats died at about the same time Rock and Roll died along with Bernie Sanders putting his hat in the ring.

    Bye bye miss american pie.....
     

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