Tell an Australian what the argument is against building a border wall.

Tell an Australian what the argument is against building a border wall.

1) It cannot prevent border crossings.
2) It is prohibitively expensive.
3) It does not represent the image America intended.
4) Maintaining it would be impossible.
5) There are far less expensive and more capable ways of achieving the intended result.

 

It would appear as if you're trying to say that Terrorists could hire Mexican tunnel builders to make tunnels to smuggle terrorists into Israel.

They could do that, I guess. But if Trump were to build his make-believe-wall (which is actually just a fantasy to dupe the less intellectually endowed among his fanatics) they'd probably make much more money by staying and building it underneath it. And they know the geography and geology of their area much better.

 

How did you come up with that? I never mentioned Israel. I meant that Mexican smugglers smuggle anyone with the money. You are crazy if you think Mexican smugglers don't smuggle Middle Easterners into the US. By the way don't bet your rent the wall will not be built. I suppose things like this don't ring your 'intellectual' bell. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-patrol-agent-killed-big-bend-texas-rogelio-martinez/

 

What expertise do traffickers have exactly? It doesn't seem too difficult to get some people to walk across a border. What makes you think they would know how to build a tunnel like the one that was built for El Chapo? I actually didn't think traffickers came into the picture with regards to Mexico to USA. Can't people just get to the USA themselves?

 

Who said anything about terrorism?

 

What does the post date have to do with it? You still posted it didn't you?

 

Good ideas, but in one of these suggestions, the government is condemning illegal employment. In the other, the government is regulating it, therefore its not illegal employment.

 

Which is?

 

No it would still be illegal. The government technically taxes drugs but in order to pay taxes on the drugs you need to admit to selling them. Its a legal catch-22 which they could use with illegals. So if someone was caught employing illegals not only would they pay the fines but they would have to pay back pay and other penalties to the workers. Pile on enough charges and fines and no one will ever hire another illegal again.

 

Yeah, which is why no one pays taxes on drugs. Why would they want to?

 

Oh then you tell the cops to go door to door knocking and expecting the Mexican to explain all you want to know?

My son in law was a cop and CA refuses to allow cops to do that.

Democrats dream up ways not to have a wall plus punish companies or homeowners who hire maids.

 

The onus is on them to not hire an illegal. If they hire an illegal they should be fined its as simple as that. We don't need a wall we need to remove the economic incentive for illegals to come here. If there aren't any jobs then there is no reason to leave Mexico in the first place.

 

You missed the entire point and why did you edit my post? Selling drugs is illegal but they still want you to pay taxes on them regardless just like employing illegal aliens is illegal but they could go one step further and make it illegal to pay them lower wages as well thus adding even more and bigger fines to companies or individuals who hire illegals. We need to make the fines so massive and expensive that no one would hire an illegal ever again. Scare the crap out of them by grinding some of those shitty farms into the dirt and leaving the owners homeless and living under a bridge. I have zero sympathy for people taking advantage of other people's desperation.

 

https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/United_States_of_America_1992

 

What's Naziism about killing people that are trying to destroy/hurt us? Nazis killed completely innocent people for being a certain religion, the wrong race or looking a certain way because 1 guy didn't like them. 1 guy. But you think killing drug lords is comparable to that? I'm thinking you need to brush up on history kiddo and gain some perspective, because you throw Nazi around like a liberal who doesn't know what they actually did.

 

How the hell does a wall conflict with the ENTIRETY of the constitution?

 

It does not and I did not state is does.

 

Oh yeah, I totally got your point and its a very good one. I was just picking up on what you said about drugs
even thought you were just using it as an example. I thought you were saying that people DO pay taxes on drugs.

 

Well then why did you point me to The Constitution?

 

We're not talking about the filthy liberal land that is California. We're talking about ICE! Even in non-illegal alien friendly states, I'm assuming that it would be ICE doing the door knocking.

 

So that you might read it in order to understand why most in America see the wall as a bad idea.

 

Sure, but are you saying that every part of the constitution would tell me why "most in America sees the wall as a bad idea?"

 

There has long been a wall. I see it as a great idea. Are you worried Americans might flee to Mexico?

 

Long been a wall?

 

Of course not, I am saying that the United States has traditionally stood for diversity, freedom, acceptance and compassion as defined by our Constitution and a "Wall" runs counter to these ideals. That if you read what this document says and embrace it the wall is not acceptable.