63,000 people in USA died from drug overdoze in 2016.

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A slight disagreement here. Sure, "Big Pharma", like most corporations, looooooves to make money. OTOH, doctors take an oath and most abide by that oath. The problem isn't the doctors but the insurance companies; paying for pills is cheaper than surgery. Pills may cost a $1000/year, but surgery can quickly run up to six figures depending on the problem.
     
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    **** I need a new doctor now..............................Who do you use?
     
  3. jay runner

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    Everybody's got their own problems: House payments, car payments, home insurance, car insurance, put food on the table, push hard and work hard to stay employed and avoid the next layoff, etc.

    There's no reason responsible people should care about or pay out money for the irresponsible who become addicted.
     
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    Goodness, more are killed from the opioids than from automobile accidents or angry wives or terrorists.

    But Big Pharma is so well in control of the government that nobody talks of removing the drugs from the market.
     
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  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Local family doctor. No pain meds here. Just cholesterol and allergy prescriptions. Have you tried this guy? He'll write you whatever you want...for a price:
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, but I fail to see how that relates to my post.
     
  7. jay runner

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    If they use the candy doc, let them die where they lie.

    If they use the pusher man, let them die where they lie.
     
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    My doctor made me do it.
     
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    Overdose deaths are caused by legal drugs more than illegal drugs. Most of them come from a pharmacy or pain management clinic via prescription.
     
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    Or, you could go read the side effects of the top 10 prescribed medicines in the US and find that several cause depression and/or suicidal thoughts.
     
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    nobody forces you to take anything or seek a prescription for anything.
     
  12. Oh Yeah

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    1,087,000 abortion.
    612,000 from heart disease
    589,000 from cancer
    348,600 from tobacco
    305,800 from obesity
    250,500 Medical errors
    142,400 Lower Respiratory Disease
    132,600 Stroke
    135,500 Accident (Unintentional)
    99,600 Alcohol
    98,600 Hospital associated infection
    93,200 Alzheimer's
    76.200 from diabetes
    55,000 Influenza - Pneumonia
    42,600 Kidney failure
    42,650 suicide
    33,600 from drunk driving
    33,300 Blood infection
    32,600 from stroke
    31,000 from unintentional poisoning
    24,900 from all drug abuse
    16,750 homicide
    14,900 from prescription drug overdose
    11,450 murder by gun
    6,000 texting while driving
    5,000 pedestrian
    3,900 Drowning
    3,500 fire related
    2,760 Malnutrition
    1,460 Domestic Violence
    777 smoking in bed
    http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php

    Not sure how these stat's are calculated or how many can be combined. One thing is for sure is that we really abuse our health.
     
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    So heroin and meth from sunny Mexico is ok with you
     
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    So, all manners of society should not trust doctors?
     
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    As long as the same equipment operation laws as alcohol are applied and the users are consenting adults, yes, I'm fine with them. I tend to stay on the side of adults can make their own decisions so long as they are not coerced, forced or frauded and these decisions do not impede on the rights of others.
     
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    Then snort your meth
     
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    The stories I was referring to were people who were in car accident and over prescribed pain killers. Personally I don't use headache tablets or any tablets of any kind just fyi
     
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    We're you thinking they have magic bullets for pain?
     
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    That's my point. People want these meds and they voluntarily keep seeking and taking these meds.
     
  20. CCitizen

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    Sad but true. That is part of American attitude of caring little for people who are in need.
     
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    I'm just glad there are omnipotent people like you around to take care of the lowly adults that can't care for themselves.
     
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    No, I'm thinking that if a doctor prescribes something dangerous they should be held liable.
     
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    I feel as if the dangers of these drugs aren't fully understood if a doctor prescribes them.
     
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    Nor mine. Yet many of these over doses do not come from the pills your doc prescribes you for pain. Most of the overdose deaths come from the opiate, heroin. Inconsistencies in strength is generally the culprit. SO, you been shooting up X amount and then some new stuff comes in. You do not know it, but it has not been cut as much. So, you shoot up what you normally shoot up and its lights out.

    Trouble is, with this new hysteria, the people who need pain meds for a quality of life have been unable to get their pain meds, given that many doctors are scared of the DEA and just will not write them. Many of these are old people. So leave it up to the govt and DEA over react and cause people in real pain to lose their meds. George Knapp, of Las Vegas, a reporter there is doing a story on it, from his investigation of the issue.
     
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    Sorry. I should have said "if one has been paying attention . . ."
     
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