Legal marijuana cuts violence says US study, as medical-use laws see crime fall

Same was trues about marijuana, the progressives said that Mexicans in the Southwest became violent under the influence of marijuana.

The truth is progressives are just like liberals and liberals hate it anytime anyone enjoys something.

If liberals see something that people like they either outlaw it, tax it or regulate it and tax it even more.

 

From you own link...

 

DUI is a crime regardless of whatever the source of the influence.

Apply the same laws and penalties for drunk driving to marijuana.

Did your study show a REDUCTION in alcohol related accidents?

 

I guarantee more people in Colorado died as a result of a firearm than marijuana last year. Your own article states that on 7 out of 22 surviving drivers found with marijuana were legally impaired. Guess we need to make guns illegal in Colorado huh?

 

What a load of utter bovine feces!

Sessions is NOT a liberal!

 

But this is a significantly different conversation, from the one we were having prior. The conversation prior, was on banning marijuana for health purposes. Now we find that they are helpful for health purposes, and now we need to regulate recreational use.

There are people who smoke cigars/drive, and drink/drive(this one's actually illegal) and all the same it causes damage. But that doesn't mean one goes about banning cigarettes and booze. In much the same way, one can have laws against smoking marijuana in moving vehicles and that would by itself take care of the problem.

Some still will, that's what criminals do. That's where the legal process kicks in.

 

Here is who funded the research:
Funded by

• Research Council of Norway. Grant Number: 239120
• Japan Society for the Promotion of Science Fellows. Grant Number: 26-5010

I don't see a problem with it. Maybe you can point it out?

 

In case you missed it it is the left and liberals who want things like drugs legal. The right wing moral police are the ones who want big government to just tell you no because Jesus or something. Alabama and Mississippi are not close to legalised pot or other drugs. They barely have any gambling and still have many areas which don't let you drink on Sunday because Jesus. Stop your lying saying liberals are keeping drugs illegal.

As for taxation, yeah tax the ****. What is the problem with that? There is a reality that use will require an increase of need for certain public safety like police watching for intoxicated drivers. There are other social expenses which you can compensate for by taxing the users rather than everyone else. Make better systems to keep p kids from buying drugs. Put out public warnings about their dangers. Pay for it by taxation of the users. Perhaps pay for some education and some infrastructure also on these voluntary things. Hell, pay for more and better police to fight against crime. Drugs profits have funded criminals, why not fund law enforcement to deal with violent crime and things like that?

Really, you seem to not be thinking all of this through.

 

Session might be a real progressive.

Remember those who hide behind the progressive label today are not true progressives. Most are Marxist, internationalist socialist, anarchist and even a few Maoist.

During America's progressive era progressives were found in both political parties.

Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive and so was Woodward Wilson.

 

Use the money you get from taxation fund things like more cops to watch out for intoxicated drivers. You can put people who drive while high in jail and not pay nearly as much as you do for throwing all people who possess and sell the drugs in jail. You can pay for systems to monitor sales and prosecute those who sell to underage people. You could fund rehabilitation programs to help addicts overcome addictions to these substances. You can fund public education programs to help inform people of the dangers of these substances so people can make an informed decision about use. You can do all of these things through taxation of the users so people who say no don't have to pay for other people's choices.

It is so much cheaper to combat the problems of use rather that pay for criminalization and fight criminals who use drug profits to fund their criminal activities.

 

Yet another load of utter bovine feces!

Try dealing with REALITY!

The phony war on drugs is 100% conservative from it's inception to it's expansion into the militarization of the police.

 

If the state couldn't tax marijuana do think marijuana would have been legalized in Colorado or California ?

I don't believe any thing should have a special tax if it's legal.

Remember the Blue Laws ? They were all over America,

I was in Texas once and couldn't buy a pair of underwear on a Sunday. I remember being in Massachusetts on a Sunday and there were a whole crap of stuff you couldn't purchase. Was in Colorado once and just before midnight on Saturday at a convenience store saw them removing all of the beer from the cooler and replacing the beer with 3.2 beer. On Sundays only 3.2 beer could be sold off sales. But you could still go into a bar and drink 5% alcohol beer. There were many states where beer trucks couldn't be on the highways on Sunday. This was many years ago.

Some counties in Florida you still can't buy a dildo on Sundays.

It seems that deer, turkey, doves and ducks in Virginia feel pretty safe on Sundays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States

 

So what took California so long ?

 

I think Marijuana is a safer bet to start at, since it's quite a bit less deadly and toxic than Alcohol and Smoking.

 

CA is NOT the federal government.

 

Tell that to Jerry Brown and the reconquista socialist in the state legislature. They see things differently.

 

You are all over the map as far as making incoherent posts go.

 

I can understand that but I disagree with it. People should be free to do as they please, but if something causes a strain on society I think the government can tax and use that money to overcome the public expense of dealing with those freedoms. Alcohol consumption causes a need for police and emergency workers. We cannot expect everyone to obey the laws especially with a substance that gives you a good push towards doing illegal stuff. So we tax it and we use those taxes for regulation and cleanup. Why should a person who never uses alcohol pay for the problems it causes when it is not required to survive? If you want to enjoy drugs you can pay for them and the system that distributes them safely. If you don't want to do that then I see no reason someone else should have to pay for that. That is the way I feel about a lot of things that are entertainment or religious.

I don't see any reason a poor person should get a manufactured substance if they cannot pay for it so if you want it pay for it. I also don't see the manufacturers being the best people to trust with the clean up of and safety of their products so the government has to step in. That costs money, and money you can get from taxes on those specific items.

 

It comes down to whether we are in a free country or not. All the other points are great, but the real question is, are we really free to live the way we want to, or are we in a country where we can be put in prison for an act that has no victim?

 

That sounds almost made up, hehe. Japan and Norway? It’s almost like whoever is really behind it, buried the funding behind walls of agencies and councils and then grants donated by who knows. The legal version of a VPN.

 

I have no problem with a tax, I do have a issue with a tax that is excessive like with cigarettes, a tax should never be over 100% the cost of the product

that said, you can always grow your own tobacco and role your own cigarettes if your poor

 

Researchers have to go out and get funding. It's like politics.

 

But I live in California.

Do you know what its like not having any representation in Sacramento for decades ? Obvious not.

 

And you haven't even gotten started on the economic benefits.

If we can legalize alcohol we can legalize weed. If nothing else, the Feds should get out of the way and let the people in the states decide...

 

Well we no longer have the personal freedoms we once had in America.

It depends on which state you live in. California is near the bottom when it comes to personal freedoms and the freedom of choice.

It wasn't the state legislatures that legalized marijuana in some states but the voters who went to the polls.

The states are going to tax the **** out of marijuana and there still will be a black market just like you still have moonshiners today.

Homboldt County, California economy has been heavily dependent on the illegal growing of marijuana going back to the late 1970's. After the environmental wackos and tree huggers destroyed the logging industry in California it was replaced by the marijuana cultivation industry. Other wise Homboldt County would be a shithole county today.

What many forget that cultivating marijuana is environmentally unfriendly, politically incorrect.

Takes a whole lot of water.
If you are growing indoors takes a whole lot of electrical energy and water.
And who knows what kind of insecticides and chemicals are being used ?


I've talked to many who have been smoking the bud for over fifty years and they all say what is being consumed today isn't natural but has been genetically altered and some really nasty insecticides have been used.