Death tax

Discussion in 'Budget & Taxes' started by trickyricky, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. Longshot

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    Yep, you're the one who advocates the initiation of aggression, not me.
     
  2. Nonsensei436

    Nonsensei436 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You wouldn't remember since you were a newborn baby. Your parents signed you up and since you were a minor they could do it in your place. Don't like it, complain to your folks.

    But obviously you do like it since as soon as you were legally able to terminate your agreement you chose to let it continue, and still do so to this day.
     
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    What agreement?
     
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    lazy and unintelligent heirs are the good rich people who are more merciful to the peasants because they can relate with them.

    tax free status is their gift.
     
  5. Nonsensei436

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    The one where you agreed to pay taxes in return for citizenship and all its benefits and conditions. Like I said, your parents signed you up and the first 18 years were free, but you've had the ability to cancel your subscription to the United States for a while now.

    Like I said. It's voluntary. You can either be a citizen and pay your taxes, or you can leave the country never to return. The choice is yours.

    Just don't pretend you don't have one, because you do.
     
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  6. Longshot

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    That doesn't sound voluntary. I think you're mistaken about what voluntary means.
     
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    Having a choice makes it voluntary. Perhaps you could explain what part of it sounds involuntary.
     
  8. Longshot

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    This part sounds involuntary: "The one where you agreed to pay taxes in return for citizenship and all its benefits and conditions. Like I said, your parents signed you up and the first 18 years see free, but you've had the ability to cancel your subscription to the United States for a while now."
     
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    I think the appropriate term would be extortion.
     
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    You are free to leave at any time
     
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    ...said the mafia don.
     
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    That's right. And we won't even break your legs. Lol
     
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    So, yeah, as you say, not "voluntary".
     
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    You are free to leave. Lol
     
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    Why would I leave my home and neighbors?
     
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    the individual has sovereign right to the land they occupy at any given moment, and lawful government force involuntarily makes them pay taxes and/or rent on it.

    private or public property owners can make individuals do anything they want on land, because they are backed by lawful government force.
     
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    You don' have to. You don' have to pay your taxes either. Lol
     
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    I don't think people understand what happens when you expatriate. All of you assets are immediately seized, then you are charged an estimated 10 years of futre taxes. If not paid and if they can get to you, they will imprison you.

    Even if you have no family and friends, that's not a real choice if you ask me.
     
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    Simply untrue
     
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    BUT...most everyone wants to come to the US because of the opportunities, because of the mobility, and no other nation can boast this level of immigration. For those who come here and fail, it's not because the opportunities do not exist...it's because the people fail to take advantage of those opportunities. The same applies to indigenous Americans...the opportunities exist...
     
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    All Western nations have high migration demands. This merely reflect North-South wage divides. It does not suggest that the US is a land of opportunity. Its social mobility is decidedly low after all.

    You exaggerate the opportunities, else you'd be able to show that social mobility is higher in the US than in mainland Europe.
     
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    That's not true. I am an expat U.S. citizen.
     
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    those who fail tend to be lazy, poor, and uneducated, immigrant or American.
     
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    US is a land of opportunity for hard working, educated, and wealthy people, not those from inferior lands or families both foreign and domestic.
     
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    What the heck is an 'inferior land or family'?
     

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