‘We will prosecute’ employers who help immigration sweeps, California AG says

All through American history we have seen in America generation after generation stand up and face the tyrants. In every case the good guys prevailed. I wonder if there are enough yet left to stand up to the beast. What bothers me most is the complacency that I see. Just this morning I asked four people about the shutdown and three out of didn't know about it and the forth told me he just didn't care.

 

Immigration is not a states right issue. Illegal aliens effect the country as a whole. Name me one other country where you can freely overtake it's government by just walking across it's borders and telling it's leaders we want you to take care of us and we want you to change your laws to fit our needs. Hopefully when those illegals are leaving you will join them.

 

Thats certainly a good argument to seperate CA finances from that of the rest of the nation.

Though I think we'd all be better off if all states were more financially independent from eachother, relying on interstate trade instead of communal taxation and redispersement.

 

Strange as unlike the children and grandchildren of congress men and women there are DACA children in the US military and some who have given their lives to a very ungraceful nation.

 

Maybe no one has been charged yet. That's a tactic sometimes used. You pass a law that you know can't stand up in court, but then you never charge anyone with violating it (at least not until people have gotten good and used to the idea). That way no one gets legal standing to challenge it before it gets seated in the culture, and you get the chilling effect you were seeking without a legal challenge.

 

Odd as living in an area of the nation where the majority of the head of households are foreign born I had not yet run into these welfare demanding foreigners in the last forty years of living here.

Lot of illegals willing to do almost any kind of work can be found in the parking lots of Home Depots and such at least until the threat of ICE had driven them slightly underground.

 

California in itself wishes too divide into two states, the rural interior and the coastal sections. Why? The coastal sections are sucking all the money of the rural wealthy and supporting the cost of the take over for the support of the illegal aliens in the cities. The States are independent from each other except in the matters of "general welfare" which effects the other states. We fought a civil war over some states wishing to go on it's own which was against the "general welfare" of all the states. A non-secure border and assisting and abetting illegals is against the "general welfare" of all the states. I am sure all these matters will make it to the Supreme Court and I believe the states will lose. If they continue to obstruct then the Federal Government will use what ever means it takes to make sure the State complies.

 

Guess you didn't look very hard. Doesn't really matter if they never took a penny of welfare the matter is they have broken the law and are here illegally. They are using the resources of our country unlawfully. If they came here on a Visa as our guess and refused to go home it is the same thing as thumbing their nose at their host. They are trying to game the system over others who have also applied by the rules to enter our country lawfully. What part of "Illegal" don't you people understand?

 

So, anything including a war to keep the states interpendent and communalist and subservient to centralized federal power...

Its soviet style communism by a different name.

Heres a thought. Let CA secede. That'll set the precedent for rural CA to secede from CA, and prolly rejoin 'the union.' And we'll be rid of the parasite cities (and any chance of a meaningful progressive influence in our politics as a bonus), all without a war or forcing anyone to do anything.

We'll have to suffer expensive avocados for a few years. But totally worth it imo.

 

No one said something cannot be worked out for some of those here. It is also a fact that a many DACA children , now adults, make up a high percentage of people in our prison system. A extreme vetting of any illegal aliens should be part of the procedure. Their are many families who have applied for Visa's ahead of the DACA's and deserve to be ahead of the line. To be able to apply and be granted a visa is a privilege, not a right. Why should DACA's be given special treatment over applicants? What does DACA mean? DEFEERED (put off to a later time, postponed) Action for CHILDHOOD ( these people are not children anymore) Arrivals. You know the Democrats could have put into law years ago amnesty for the DACA's but preferred not too. Now,they could have gotten a deal this time around, but they wanted to play games and not finance the wall. So as far as I'm concerned they can send them all back. No WALL no DACA.

 

Facts are not on your side.

 

It's the Constitution. Trust me there are plenty who wish California would be hit by an earthquake and the Coast fall into the Ocean.

 

Sorry but anyone with a US criminal records can not be in the DACA program.

Love to know where you got your information from.

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...o-smuggle-illegals-across-the-border-n2395166

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...icted-or-accused-of-crimes-against-americans/

 

The AG should go to prison because he's clearly a traitor to the nation and an enemy of its citizens..

 

Strong words. How did you come to your conclusion?

 

To answer your question, no CA is not attempting to write its own immigration laws.

What the state is doing is the moral equivalent of taking a knee during the national anthem. California is strenuously objecting to cruel and immoral behavior used in the enforcement of a statute.

Washington has the power to write the laws and make the policy, but the policy cannot be immoral.

 

Jerry Brown and his minions of loons are a lot closer to being communist than the Federal government. As a anti Federalist how do you feel about receiving money for flooding and fire damage? How about damage from volcanos?

 

So what? I am sure that the citizens and denizens of this country as a whole, did not ask any of the DACA leaches to join any of the United States military branches; this was done on their own to play “the system” as an avenue to FastTrack citizenship, which is unfair to the others who were and are waiting in line for years because they decided to “do the right thing”.

 

Since when is the "rule of Law" immoral? Obama did an unlawful thing and had no right to use his office to establish DACA. The AG is just following the law on the books. If Congress want's too they can make a law and fix this but up until that time the law must be followed. Moral or immoral has nothing to do with it.

 

When the law is poorly crafted and/or applied immorally.

That you have no conscience yourself is your own problem. Immoral laws make an immoral country.

 

Then you would consider all countries immoral as all countries have borders and parameters for who can enter and who can't. When it comes to being moral there is no other country that even comes close to helping others. Name one other country that has taken in more people from other countries. Name one other country that has come to the defense of the oppressed more than USA. . Name me one other country that has given more aid to the poor to other countries. Name one country that has helped more to rebuild the cities of the countries they were at war with.

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I'm afraid immoral does not apply to our lawful immigration system. What is immoral is the illegal people who are crossing our borders to undercut are economy at the detriment of it's lawful citizens. What is immoral is those who are crossing our border's illegally smuggle opiates, heroin and other drugs that our killing our children. What is immoral is the sex traffickers who are enslaving young girls and boys across our borders for profit. What is immoral is the coyote who is charging those for passage and then raping the woman or abandoning them in the desert or trucks to die. What is immoral is the employers of illegals and paying them under the table instead of hiring Americans.

 

What 'facts' are you referring to which contradict my post?

 

They must think Obama is still President.

 

Yes! And seemingly oblivious to the fact that many Californians and most Americans in the remainder of the country look upon him narrowly.