Poll: More Americans will blame shutdown on Trump, GOP than on Dems.

Can you tell me why republicans voted against the bill?

 

tWump and GOP, shut down the gov't.

Because they want a wall, that is a mere impediment, for $12B that Mexico was suppose to pay for.

 

No. They won’t. Fail topic is fail.

 

Unlike guavaball, will you try to actually refute this poll with proof, rather than opinion?

Can you show ABC/POST Pollster having an inaccurate history? Can you show and prove, with citation, specific problems in their methodology?

Was weighting for variance missing (aka correcting for extra Dems).....because I see it mentioned in their methodology page.

 

That’s how democrat media complex propaganda works.

 

Unlike guavaball, will you try to actually refute this poll with proof, rather than opinion?

Can you show ABC/POST Pollster having an inaccurate history? Can you show and prove, with citation, specific problems in their methodology?

Was weighting for variance missing (aka correcting for extra Dems).....because I see it mentioned in their methodology page.

 

Like Hillary was a lock?

 

Was just watching don lemon on cnn and people are blaming the democrats! What rock are you hiding under?

 

We've been through this. Don't be like that.

The national opinion polls were correct, and earily accurate:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/1 - 11/7 -- -- 46.8 43.6 Clinton +3.2

And historically for Wapo/ABC, they are stupidly good:

https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

You're thinking of electorate predictions and the silly pundits.

 

Are you talking about the CNN Poll? It isn't far off from my poll. 48/28 vs 47/31.

They give majority blame to Republicans (Trump and GOP Congress).

 

Funny how you have to spend the ENTIRE time you're posting on this...your OWN thread...justifying (lamely) the bullshit you used to make the OP.

Freakin' hilarious!

 

Huh?

It isn't my justification, and it certainly isn't "bullshit" or someone would have shown inaccuracy or error with citation. I'm merely citing ABC's methodology page, RCP, Pew, and 538s accuracy records, and no one can refute any of this direct data. It's like stealing candy from a baby.

Guavaball tried by listing their sample, but the methodology page already states they weight for that variance. On top of an extremely high accuracy history. So that killed any real attempt.

What was inaccurate? Citation please.

 

If 100% of republicans vote & 0 Democrats do not, does the goveerent stay open?

 

It's clearly more complicated than that, and there are a few threads on the front page open discussing that. Take that convo there.

Most Americans blame the Republicans (Trump/Congress), according to 2 polls.

 

Can you tell me why Republicans can't pass a funding bill?

 

Because not enough democrats voted for it because they want amnesty of illegals included in a budget bill. But thanks for answering a question with a question and not providing any type of answer to mine.

 

Even MSNBC just admitted the shutdown is Chuckie's fault.

 

I blame it on party politics, the good of the party over the good of the country. I blame it on dysfunctional government and the congress, the unwillingness to work together for the good of the nation, the unwillingness to seek compromise and accommodation with the other party from both major parties. I blame it on the Democrats for trying to use the budget which should be just funding, money issues for DACA and the Trump administration and GOP congress for not doing anything with DACA. In other words, what we have here is partisan politics as normal where both sides has told the country to stick it where the sun don't shine in hopes that the majority of Americans will take sides and more votes can be achieved while the country suffers. Shame on both major political parties and everyone in them.

Its no wonder among independents, the non-affiliate, those who don't identify with either major party which according to Gallup make up 46% of the electorate, that only 19% have a favorable view of the Democrats in congress while 16% have a favorable view of Republicans in congress. Now that is something to be proud of isn't it? Question 79A and B

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/wtt95as3fo/econTabReport.pdf

It isn't any wonder 25% of Americans cite dissatisfaction with government as this nation top problem.

http://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

While Democrats are jumping up and down with glee as apparently you are as you equate it to more votes. More and more people are leaving the two major parties. They are becoming independents as the 46% is an all time high.

As of December 2017 only 27% of all Americans now affiliate themselves with the Democratic Party while 25% do the same for the GOP. Back in 2012 it was 35% Democratic, 30% Republican. Our two major parties are losing those in middle America. The one's not one the extremes of the left and right. It's a darn shame most Americans must decide which party they consider the least evil in order to vote or run our government.

 

A shutdown happens when the majority party tries to slip their own proposals in the spending bill and the minority party can't support it. Both parties have done this in the past not just Republicans.

 

In September 2013, Trump declared, "[P]roblems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president's the leader. And he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead. [Obama] doesn't do that. He doesn't like doing that. It's not his strength. And that's why you have this terrible situation.... It's very embarrassing worldwide."

 

They could have used reconciliation and only needed 51 votes. McConnell chose not to.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ay-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants.html

You mean because Republicans have their heads up their butts over an issue that the majority of Americans agree on?