LEAKED MEMO: DREAMers Are ‘Critical’ To Dems ‘Future Electoral Success’

Obama usurped his powers to change their status. trump refused to do the same. they are currently illegal. dems shut down the government to continue something unconstitutional in the first place.

 

so, these dreamers don't get any program subsidies, instate tuition, preferential minority programs from the government, etc? stop pretending

 

There is a vast divide between wanting immigration stopped and "hating" immigrants. Perhaps the reasons have nothing to do with "hate".

 

Try evidence instead of opinion. If you have any evidence they get any more government help than natural born American kids go ahead and post it.

 

It doesn't look like you read the OP or understand the words in it.
What part of Jennifer Palmieri's memo do you not understand?

 

There is the problem of leftist transference of thoughts and emotions again. The people who cannot stand anyone disagreeing with their policy automatically terms others as "haters".

It ends rational discussion and puts all political discussion on a highly subjective and emotionally laden track that rewards zealots
and teary eyed believers over thoughtful researched facts and policy.
Our children have been taught, brainwashed actually, to think those that disagree with them are haters and I have to hand it to the left
they really have incorporated a brilliant tactic here that serves them well.
It's what you do when you cannot win on facts. You make the issue an emotionally based one.

 

The law is the law. Which law enabled it?

 

You actually thought he was talking a corporate ownership?

Hmmm the next time a resident leftist says big corporations own the Reoublicans shall I pose the same question and can J take it you do NOT believe so?

 

Your statement was that Trump was following the Constitution by deporting dreamers. Guess you just made that up.

 

Are you disputing the existence of United States of America immigration law? Incredible!

I know leftists don't want to believe there is such a thing as immigration law in this nation (much in the same way that Jim Crow southerners didn't want to acknowledge the end of slavery or civil rights laws) but that doesn't mean it does not exist.

 

Yup.

This is the biggest issue of far right posters on this forum. Instead of directly reporting the article, they link the Blog that gives an opinion on the article.

There was nothing wrong in that memo.

(D) are smart on this, as 70-80% Americans are pro Daca/Dreamer.

 

But it certainly is fun watching the cons here twist and turn and make up fake news.

Most of the cons on this site wouldn’t vote for a Democrat even if the Republican candidate was Vladimir Putin.

 

So, how many illegals have you sought out to come live in your neighborhood or in your home with you? Why do you expect the rest of us to do it if you won't?

 

Which it turned out to be, although very very few knew it at the time...

 

Of course it isn't their fault what their parents did. Just like it is not the fault of the children still overseas whose parents are on the waiting list to immigrate legally, or the fault of people now grown who never did get in via the legal immigration lottery.....it was WRONG of our country to allow this illegal immigration to continue for so long by not enforcing our own laws. It would be equally WRONG to to further reward those who have benefitted by being in this country all of these years (schooling, health care, etc) by allowing them to jump the actual line. Their parents made the choice for them, and they have reaped the benefits -- that doesn't mean we are required to let that situation continue. It doesn't mean we have animosity towards them either. At some point, we must start following the law, and we MUST stop rewarding those who ignore the law. The situation was caused by their parents, which is where any anger and disappointment needs to be directed. It is time we stopped letting FEELINGS trump law. This "for the children" stuff has gone too far. No one hates children, but PARENTS are responsible for them. If they are in the country illegally, there should be no schooling, no medical care except true life/death emergencies, no food assistance, no government anything. Yes, it could be considered harsh, but that is what is necessary to stop encouraging parents to bring or send their children here. Stop making it attractive. Enforce our laws, just like most other sovereign nations do.

 

I am ll knowing and understand everything.

 

Exactly. Why bother to pretend we are a Christian caring country when in fact we are just no different from any other crap piece of the universe.

 

Hate need not be part of the concern. We have a broken society. The West in general is having problems with people entering their 30s unmarried, no kids. In the West, there is a ruling elite that is papering over the problems in our society by bringing in replacements. It doesn't matter what race one is: if you are a citizen, at this rate, rather than build a functioning society that is reproducing itself, your prosperity will not exist.

I think the USA will always need some (maybe 1,000) H1B Visas for truly skilled people whose talents we need. Also, without agricultural migrants (people that come, work, then go home), the USA will lose its food production capabilities so important to a free and independent nation. Tourist/Student visas. Those are cool. Other than that? There's already a country here. There is no moral argument for bringing that many more people into it. (Were it a libertarian society, OK. But it isn't).

If your argument is that other nations need a hand, we can do that for those nations without bringing people here. We simply do not have the resources (or the moral right) to depopulate the rest of the planet.

 

Wevare not depopulating the rest of the planet.

 

Exactly, and Democrats and liberals will be the first to point out that the US is NOT a Christian country and religion has no place in determining our laws.

 

This isn't a Christian country and freedom of and from religion is part of our legacy.

 

There's no guarantee of how they will vote. They're thinking human beings with their own minds and opinions.

Also, Republicans could also look forward to their votes if they would quit being (solely) the party of angry old white people. Something to consider.

 

Most of the populace of the rest of the planet is still, by US standards, poor. My concern is there are people that would say, "of course you must let their citizens come here as, their own country is horrible"... as if the US could take all such people into our nation. We cannot. So what should we do to be good global citizens? My answer is not bring people here but help others in their own nations.

 

So just say it you want to close brown immigration.

 

You do not think brown people would be qualified for HB1 visas? Even if they are from Japan or India? That they would not even make good migrant agricultural workers? I disagree.