Opinion: What to do with Dreamers?

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  1. APACHERAT

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    Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor,or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.

    Seems like the Obama CIS had a vetting problem just like Obama's / Hillary's State Department and DHS had a vetting problem when they vetted the San Berdoo terrorist Tashfeen Malik.

    (May explain why the Gang of Six DACA amnesty called for the revetting of all 700,000 illegal aliens who were allowed DACA protection. Even the Gang of Six knew that Obama didn't properly vetted the illegal aliens.)


    Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate,...

    Somebody isn't telling the truth.

    Harvard researcher Roberto G. Gonzalez has surveyed more than 2,000 self-identified DACA recipients about their education levels.

    Gonzalez also found that 21 percent of DACA recipients have dropped out of high school, far above the national dropout rate of 5.9 percent,
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/11/the-numbers-behind-the-dreamers/



     
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    attorneys general. My error. First time I used initials
     
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    And the other 79%?
     
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    Both Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are very competent to govern. Hillary has baggage and I lived in Florida while Jeb Bush was
    Governor and he is extremely competent. Trump is inept. He is very competent at belittling others to cover up his lack of knowledge.
    The DACA thing is about peoples lives and trade-offs in a situation like this are unconscionable.
     
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    Adios. Go forth and culturally enrich the place from which you came.
     
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    That is your ignorance on display since conservatives understand DACA at least as well as you do
     
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    Both would have given schumer everything he wanred and gotten nothing in return

    That is incompetence
     
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    I would say to grant them preliminary visas that they them have to renew after 4 years and then they can apply for citizenship.
     
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    DACA does not belong in a buget bill

    But if liberals insist then trumps demands are full funding for the wall, plus an end to chain migration and the visa lottery
     
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    Also after the DACAs get amnesty then the immigration quota for their home country should be reduced to compensate

    Meaning amnesty for 800,000 DACAs from mexico should cause 800,000 fewer legal immigrant visas from mexico
     
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    They are in for a rude awakening. I don't know why they n haven't learned their lesson with Trump.
     
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    That is not how I would describe 'incompetence.' In "fact" this has nothing to do with incompetence. With DACA there should be no return since many registered as required in exchange for permanent residency. They were already told that they could stay by Sessions. He was going to make it legal and not to worry. Of course, Trump blew it out of the water, predictable for that lying turd. That guy has no soul.
     
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    I would deport all the DACAs and their parents

    Amnesty is a very big gift to liberals and I want several thing in return

    If libs dont want to deal then they will get nothing and when march arrives all the DACAs will be subject to deportation
     
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    There was already an agreement in place, and it should be honored.
     
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    There was no agreement just jousting points

    Trump voters as expressed by trump are clear about what we want in return for amnesty

    And schumer is not willing to meet our demands yet
     
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    I was homeschooled.
     
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    Oh well then, when the hell are you and your supposed conservative colleagues going to demonstrate that understanding? Because for all the bullshit they are slinging about "immigrants" around here, I ain't seen a lot of it.
     
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    No, there was an agreement in place and that is why the DACA people registered. There are other voters besides the Trump uninformed base and there are more of them. It's not what you want, but what the American people want. The Trump administration made this arrangement through Sessions. Trump needs to honor his commitment.
     
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    You dont want to see

    Meet our three conditions and the DACAs can get what they want
     
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    Oh, you mean obamas illega executive order

    But never trust a half kenyan bearing gifts
     
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    So you ADMIT to using DACA as hostages to get your own way.

    Trump can't be trusted. And McConnell can't give any assurances in that regard either. The great negotiator has DESTROYED his own credibility amongst the very people hes supposed to be negotiating with. Genius dealmaking that.

    zero sum transactional idiocy with zero understanding of how the cake gets baked. Not that you can possibly understand how ill suited that combo is to getting anything done.

    The trouble is that trump would make a great dictator. Too bad hes only an incompetent president.
     
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    From a Pew study, of the 3.6 million illegal alien dreamers, 55% never finished high school. Only 15% ever tried attending college. Of those 15% only 5% graduated.

    The American people are being lied to about who these dreamers are.

    The Democrats can't even get the numbers right about how many illegal alien dreamers are already under temporary DACA protection ? I hear 700,000, 800,000 and even heard 900,000 a few times.

    Who are these illegal alien dreamers ? It seems every time the Democrats put a dreamer in front the cameras they had to go out on a snoop and poop search missions and who do you see in front of the cameras ? Usually over weight Latina's and what I see are trouble makers, agitators. I see the same faces who took to the streets waving Mexican flags and other Central American flags not asking for amnesty but demanding amnesty.
     
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    It's been going on since 1986 when tens of thousands of illegal aliens had their criminal records expunged so they could be awarded amnesty during amnesty # 1 back in 1986.

    Most Americans are unaware that since amnesty # 1 back in 1986 six more amnesties were sneaked through Congress with a promise by the Democrats that it would be the last amnesty never to be repeated again. Seven amnesties, seven lies.

    The current push for amnesty # 8 for legalizing illegal alien dreamers will be followed by amnesty # 9.

    I'm tired being lied too.
     
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    Obama has nothing to do with Session's remarks. What a stupid thing for you to say. And never trust anyone with half a brain.
     

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