Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

No we reached the surreal long ago, I see you now claim "London is not recognisable as a British city" I suggest next time you are there you open your eyes.

 

No it is about you attempting to justify your woeful political beliefs about an atheist government and religion that do not exist. You make up silly words to bolster your ego and Smith makes up atheist bars to counter his isolation. Neither are interested in debate just wilful ignorance.

 

Extremely irritating it is too!

 

Ok, we have a fragment of ground here that we might be able to build from. As I have consistently maintained, atheism addresses the question of belief in gods and agnosticism addresses the question of knowledge of gods. As you rightly point out, SOME agnostics believe that we cannot know about the existence of gods and that is a belief, it is a positive assertion of belief and not a neutral position. However, in the context of your post, do you agree that you can hold the position that you cannot know if gods exist but, you can choose to believe that they do, even if that belief is actually more like religious faith?

 

There is a box in my brain where I store lack of others beliefs,
I lack a belief in the greatest soccer team in the world. I lack a belief in the best rock band in the world. I lack a belief in the greatest country in the world. All of these things are beliefs I know others have, that I do not. By your logic once I have been presented with the statement "I believe Deep Purple are the best rock band of all time" I must either state, " I do not believe Deep Purple are the best rock band of all time" " I do believe Deep Purple are the best rock band of all time" or "I do not have the knowledge of whether Deep Purple are the best rock band of all time" You actually claim that my brain cannot file the belief "Deep Purple is the best band rock band of all time" under the heading, "beliefs that I lack"


So it is my contention that when someone asks the question? Do you believe in gods? My reply "I am an atheist I lack a belief in gods" is both logical and consistent with many claims people make about others belief.

PS, Deep Purple are the best rock band of all time and if you do not share my belief prove it!

 

Well, look, you could be fundamentalist idiots, or just super charged extra strength idiots. I'll remain agnostic and chose to believe the former. What you aren't doing is showing any capacity to process logical arguments.

 

Demonstrating how illogical your arguments is actually a process that exceeds your abilities. May want to rethink your position.

 

nothing to contribute eh.

 

what do you think faith has to do with this topic?

 

Commercialism is promoted by zionism which is atheist which is its own religion with its own set of beliefs, praying to the the god money and the god power. If you are not aware the british model is all about commerce then your head could not get buried deeper in the sand than it already is.

and lackers are in denial. Clearly delusional.

they claim to be atheist, and deny God while denying that they believe God does not exist. That is beyond irrational to the extent of delusion.

Go ahead, deny its a religion, deny its an organization, deny they have atheist churches for their atheist religion.

What happens at an atheist church?
By Brian Wheeler BBC News Magazine

Instead of hymns, the non-faithful get to their feet to sing along to Stevie Wonder and Queen songs.

There is a reading from [the atheist bible] Alice in Wonderland [snip]
It feels like a stand-up comedy show. [It certainly is!]

Figures such as writer Richard Dawkins and comedian Ricky Gervais have made it fashionable to be more assertive about having a lack of religious faith and to think about what it means to be an atheist.

There is a concern among some non-believers that atheism is developing into a religion in its own right, with its own code of ethics and self-appointed high priests.

"It will become an organised religion. It's inevitable.

You could set yourself up as a charismatic preacher, that's the danger." [They already have! LOL]

The Sunday Assembly certainly did better business than at the evangelical St Jude and St Paul's Church next door, where about 30 believers gathered to sing gospel songs and listen to Bible readings.

But Bishop Harrison, a Christian preacher for 30 years, says he does not see his new neighbours as a threat, confidently predicting that their spiritual journey will eventually lead them to God.

"They have got to start from somewhere," he says.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21319945



Everyone can see you are wrong and still in denial. Atheism is an established church, religion, and belief system.

Atheist churches have been around for a long time preaching and celebrating antiG/god.

So go ahead continue to deny reality.

 

There are 3 distinct categories:
1). Believer.
2). Disbeliever.
3). Non-Believer.

You BELIEVE that you understand those three categories. I DO NOT BELIEVE that you do.

 

You really ought to be posting back in the conspiracy forum. Your understanding of Zionism is as poor as your understanding of logic, religion or politics.

There are Atheist religions and Atheist Churches, but atheism is not a religion. I realise the nuance of that statement will confuse you when you can only conceive of yes/no answers!

Others have beliefs in gods, bigfoots and aliens, I don't, I lack them, it is pointless, meaningless and rather silly in a modern word. But you keep on insisting I must, to sustain the errors in what you think about atheist government and other conspiracy theories.

 

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If you are using this article to guide you then you are making a huge mistake. The statement-cum-question has nothing to do with the photo.

 

You have continued to maintain incorrectly using 1/2 a deck logic.

No matter how you try to spin it you cannot be an atheist if you do not deny the existence of ALL G/gods(s)

all 3 address the question of which position a person holds.

They hold Yes, No, Impossible to know, which corresponds to theist, atheist, agnostic, lackers not inclduded.

You maintain a misguided position that having a belief is not neutral, agnostics have a positive believe and are neutral, if that is supposed to mean abstain from a vote.

Thanks, there you go, nice contradiction.

Its not possible to hold any position you do not believe, 100% contradiction, does not matter what your position is all positions are beliefs, if not beliefs then wilful lies intended to deceive.

 

The comedy that keeps on giving.

You mean like swensson? I am agnostic, remember, agnostic is a legitimate alternative to yes/no.

Yes we know you believe no G/god(s) exist and claim you 'lack belief'.

Wrong again, nothing I have said has anything to do with conspiracy, you try to accuse me of having issues with nuances while you deny 800 pound gorillas.

well call the bbc and tell them what a bunch of asshelmets they are. Want a list of the plethora of writers who wrote on the subject so you can rant at them as well?

 

So what is the greatest football team in the world?

 

yes you either believe a different football team is the greatest, or you believe no football team is the greatest or know nothing about football and cant answer the question because you dont know.

same as theist, atheist, agnostic.

 

Nothing funnier than someone as convinced of their own intellectual superiority as you are, when they actually understand very little.

You claim to be agnostic, many simply think that is the position you take to avoid proving your god, sorry over and over you make mistakes if you are really an agnostic.

I lack belief in what others believe, it is relatively simple to someone who lives in the real world and lacks beleif in lots of things others have very firm beliefs on.

All of it is wrong and tied together makes it worthy of a conspiracy forum. I doubt you even know the roots of Zionism!

 

No, it is Germany, or maybe Brazil because they have won the world cup five times, or maybe Man United. So there is a fourth answer right away. I have no belief in the greatest football team in the world because it is meaningless. Oh and define football, does it mean the silly game Americans play or the proper game the rest of the world plays.

 

That was the words of the editor of the BBC not me

Not true, that is subject to your so far incorrect interpretations, cip your belief right and wrong means something is a conspiracy.

Such foolishness. right and wrong has nothing to do with conspiracy FFS.

Fine you believe differently.

You believe its germany or brazil, or united.
Its not soccer.

 

So what? Again we are off on an obscure tangent of Kokos to avoid the real debate, and as the desperation sets in so do the silly smileys to make you feel better. You are as predictable as night follows day.

The evidence is in your posts!

Such gibberish, but again you failed to respond to my comments on Zionism, you claimed it was atheist, so I will ask you directly what are the roots of Zionism?

No. I lack belief on lots of things, my mind has no problem with that you must have a position on everything not me!

Problem getting past the comma again, you really should try it, you will be amazed how much it will open that closed mind of yours.
Same with defining things before offering an opinion, it really is worthless until you agree on the definition. If you ever get to live with a women, other than your mother you really will understand how important it is to agree what it is you are talking about before you start!

 

It is no surprise that I understand the subject better than you do. I am qualified, you are not.

 

It figures that you have a supply of ointment for butt hurt, that being your constant condition.

BTW, moron, agnostic is not a religion and if you were one you would know that. Another failure by you to support your false claims.

 

You'll be needing a couple of these any minute now. Just about the time he responds.