The Gop just locked up the midterms

How do immigrants create jobs? (Other than government jobs handing out welfare)

 

Not so long as there is an unemployment % greater than 0% and there is option for automation.

The immigrants create jobs and a merit based system with special visas would allow for it to continue.

 

Just to pick one example of so many,

Hamdi Ulukaya, who immigrated from Turkey, is the owner, founder, Chairman, and CEO of Chobani Yogurt and has approximately 2,000 employees and is the top-selling brand of Greek yogurt in the United States.In 2012, Chobani became an official sponsor of the US Olympic Team and premiered their first national commercial during the 2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony.

On December 17, 2012, Chobani opened one of the world’s largest yogurt-processing plants in Twin Falls, Idaho. The one million square-foot (93,000 m²) facility cost $450 million and employs 300 people.

In April 2016, Chobani announced it was giving 10 percent of its ownership stake to its employees. Considering there are 2,000 employees, this would be on average $150,000 per employee. Some employees will be becoming instant millionaires as a result of this action, because share awards were based on tenure at the company.

 

OK, we let in millionaire immigrants who start businesses and hand out stock options. (Who will be appalled when they find out about AMT, but that's a different thread._

See? I'm flexible.

 

immigrants start new businesses at a higher rate than citizens

 

They don't. What they do is provide cheap labor for new and old businesses. Burger flippers and janitors for the corporations and new hires for new businesses that can't afford to hire experienced help.

 

Hamdi Ulukaya was not a "millionaire immigrant."

 

Then keep him out.

 

Of course they do. They take jobs, housing, healthcare, etc.

And then the libs moan about low wages and poor housing and healthcare.

You would think they could think things through.

 

they do work Americans refuse to do

 

So when they gain citizenship and become American they will refuse to work Americans won't do, so obviously it's a bad idea. In Democrat logic, without illegal immigrants we'll all starve to death.

 

So you are claiming that without illegal immigrants we won't have yogurt anymore?

I suppose I need to post examples of rapists, murderers and other criminal immigrants.

 

We saw during the election how wildly inaccurate polls are.

 

No you didn't. The polls were showing Clinton winning the popular vote by 3 points, she won it by 2. But keep on believing and spouting that. We have this conversation many time, or at least I have with various folks. Look at the polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

with a margin of error of plus or minus 3 points in most of them, I'd say the polls called it correct.

 

You can claim that if you wish. Obviously, I make no such claim.

If you are upset that an immigrant created thousands of job in the US and contributed significantly to the commonweal, try to live with it.

You can if you wish. If you include homegrown rapists, murderers and other criminals, that would provide an index of proportionality.

 

The fake meme parroted by the Trump cult is laughable. The false claim that the 2016 presidential polls were inaccurate does not provide a credible pretext for hardcore Trump worshippers to hysterically reject the broad and consistent confirmation of public surveys that their messiah stinks in the opinion of most Americans. As perotista correctly noted above, Clinton's popular margin of 2.9 million votes was about 1% off what the aggregate of all polls was predicting just before the election. That was more accurate than in 2012.

 

The mere term "illegal immigrant" does not reflect "innocense".

 

You can spout lies all you want. It doesnt make them true.

 

No the polls showed her winning Florida, Michigan, Penn, and Wisconsin.

 

Yep......the Economy rolling along. The Demos busted out lying over Tax reform. More money in peoples pockets and now the Demos shutting down the government putting DACA in a spending bill and refusing to end chain migration.

Which doesn't count their Obstruction, their Resistance and the Lame Stream doing all they can to help the Demos.

 

You can call me a liar if you are upset by my accurately citing the empirical reality - even though that violates the Forum's rules.

That does not alter the empirical reality. Only countervailing empirical data could do that, and you have provided none.

 

Tell me o wise one why is the govt shutdown if Republicans can pass anything they want?

 

because republicans are incompetent. And McConnell chose not to use reconciliation

 

why do you insist on posting **** you know is a lie, after it's been pointed out to you?

 

Yet you offer no evidence. Im not surprised.