Trump and Shumer came close to a deal. Then it fell apart.

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  1. Bluesguy

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    He did bring them together, several times now, the Democrats refuse to go along and wanted a shutdown.
     
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    We can’t stop illegal immigrants from entering the US. A 30 foot wall is easily defeated with an aluminum extension ladder.
     
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    Why didn’t the republicans pass a budget? They only needed 51votes to do it.
     
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    Schumer agreed to give Trump the $$$ he wanted for the wall.

    then Trump changed his mind.
     
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    According to reports they tried everything
     
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    No he didnt

    Schumer agreed to authorize the money which is only a promise not actual approbation

    And it does not cover the rest of the problem which is chain immigration

    That must stop
     
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    yes he did.

    he offered Trump the money that he wants for the wall.

     
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    Schumer is a good liar

    But I haeard this one before
     
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    We need the wall in some places and drones along other places
     
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    can u prove that he is lying?

    has Trump accused Schumer of lying?
     
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    I dont have to

    He has to prove hes telling the truth
     
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    The world knows that Trump tells 2000 Lies a year .... it's documented !
     
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    It's OK with me, it's not our fault they have no ties with their own country. Their parents caused the problem and they can help their kids deal with it. If the left wants to use DACA as a way to open the border or just to fight against the right then maybe it should just be taken off the table. Most of us don't mind giving amnesty to the "dreamers" but we want a secure border to prevent other "dreamers" from coming in the future. If the left will not secure the border then they should not get any movement on DACA.
     
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    That and an end to chain immigration must happen in exchange for amnesty

    Otherwise we will just have new DACAs in the future
     
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    This poll was just about dealing with the "dreamers" and as I said most people support a kind of amnesty for the "dreamers". They were not asked about anything to prevent any future amnesty. Most Americans know that this needs to be dealt with for the future but they were not asked about the "wall", chain migration or the lottery system. Give them amnesty but do something to prevent this from happening in the future.
     
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    The pollwas designed to be pro “dreamer” because thats the answer they want
     
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    All 20 billion or the 1.6 billion already allocated for it?
     
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    Yes, that's what I said. End chain migration, the lottery system and build the "wall". While we are at it there should be a way to take government shutdown out of the hands of the congress. Maybe a constitutional amendment stating that if a budget agreement is not reached then the last budget remains in effect until an agreement is reached. Nobody should have the power to shutdown the government for any reason, this is not why we put them into office.
     
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    All polls are designed to bring about a certain result.

    If they want to protect the dreamers then there should be measures included to prevent any future dreamers from coming here.
     
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    Exactly

    If liberals had kept their promise to fix immigration in 1986 the dreamers here now would be in their own country instead
     
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    And then Democrats in turn should've been novel enough to say 'Here's an Amendment that might make some of our more Liberal party members gawk, but should be enough red meat for even the reddest of districts' and WALLA, a true bipartisan bill.
     
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    Democrats knew Trump beat them, thats why crafted that shithole nonsense.
     
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    They didn't try ladders
     

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