If Trump burned everybody alive who didn't vote for him, would you then condemn him?

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    Obama is more ethical than Jesus because he would not have burned those who didn't vote for him. Obama and Trump are BOTH more ethical than the sadistic Jesus is.
     
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    Are you kidding? With the left squawking about Trump every second of the day and you think no one has heard of him? Hahaha!
     
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    Not only would I not condemn him, I would give him a lighter. Is that the answer you're looking for?
     
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    I would if it meant not having to see anymore of your idiotic posts.
     
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    Obama is worse. He would lie to them and screw them over. Of course he did that to everyone.
     
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    In terms of the tenets of Christianity, why do you think this matters?
     
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    17+ Bible verses say that Jesus IS GOD.....so the barbarity in the Bible was likely approved of and/or committed Jesus, then.....unless the Bible got those 17 verses wrong (in which case the Bible can't be believed, of course.) So your two choices are either to believe that Jesus was a violent monster, or that the Bible can't be believed......
     
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    They didn't fall under being one of the protected groups.

    And Obamacare didn't cover the cost of KY Jelly.

    The working middle class took it up the bung hole for eight years.
     
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    Did Obama burn all that didn't vote for him, like Jesus allegedly will do? If not, then Obama is a far far more ethical person than "Jesus", because Gandhi, Ben Franklin, T Jefferson, Einstein, ALL are destined for brutal torture. Sick. Disgusting. Barbaric.
     
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    No, obama was worse than that.
     
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    It shows that even TRUMP is far more caring than the barbarian Jesus.
     
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    Show is all the, say, Hindus (they are non-Christians, bound for hell by the "all-loving" zombie from Nazareth) that Obama tortured forever. Show us.
     
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    TRUMP is more ethical/loving than Jesus.
    OBAMA is more ethical/loving than Jesus.

    ....just let that sink in for a moment.....
     
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    Ah. Can't answer the question. As I thought. You just want to rant about Christianity.
    When you die, you'll find out if you're wrong; what happens then is on you.
    Good luck!
     
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    Good point about "selective outrage".....yes, I condemn the Islamic god as much as the Christian one.
     
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    No, that's the only relevant issue here - that Jesus is less ethical than Trump and Obama.
     
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    No it is about what takes primacy

    Loyalty to your fellow man

    Or being a sycophant

    How did Hitler supporters think and act while he was killing millions? This pattern has been repeated time and again - that the "cult of personality" can triumph over morality It starts with being unable or unwilling to admit that the person who is being worshipped in this way - can be wrong.

    We are seeing this time and again on this board. No matter what Trump does it is excusable and excused and even held to be an ideal in some cases
     
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    You and Jesus resort to THREATS, FEAR......w/out having the courage (well, the "all-powerful" Jesus, that is) to provide a court-room level of evidence for these wild unscientific claims (you burn, and are denied a place in the invisible magic kingdom, if you simply dare to pick the wrong religion.)
     
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    If any presidential candidate had burned just one person alive, most likely they would have been a convicted felon.

    Being a felon does not disqualify one for the presidency, but imo any candidate with a conviction of burning one person alive would not have received many votes.

    Since there is no evidence that Trump ever had any inclination to burn even one person alive, there was no effect of such an act on his candidacy.

    I suppose the closest we can come to such a situation are the fire-bombing presidents of WWII and the village burning presidents of the Vietnam War, and I'm not sure that it continued under Nixon but likely did.
     
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    Best post of the day.
     
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    And Jesus, and Mohammad, and Moses, and Chuck Norris.
     
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    The Old Testament doesn't even mention Jesus.

    Which version of the Bible are you reffing too ? The King James version of the Holey Bible ?

    Some Christians pray to God through Jesus while other pray directly to God while some Christians pray to God through Saint's. Some Christians don't even believe in Saints.

    Some Christians believe in miracles while others don't.

    Lets leave Christians out of this thread or next you'll have Islamist jihadist chiming in and liberals will be jumping aboard defending the jihadist.
     
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    Yes, Jesus' level of morality is that of a convicted felon.
     
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    John 14:6: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"

    Acts 4:12, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-10, John 3:18, John 10:27-28, Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8, John 5:2, John 3:36, John 6:47, Acts 16:31, Romans 10:9, Revelation 19:20, 20:10,14-15, 21:8, John 15:6: Jesus said “Unless a person remains united with me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up. Such branches are gathered and thrown into the fire, where they are burned up."

    Matthew 13:41-42, 49-50 - The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Mark 9:43, 48-49 - And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’ For everyone will be salted with fire.

    Matthew 22:13 - Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Matthew 8:12 - while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Matthew 25:46 - And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

    Revelation 14:9-11; 19:3 - If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.

    Luke 12:5 - But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!
     
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    You don't think I want to expose the idiotic liberal/Jihadist alliance?
     

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