Chelsea Manning To Run For U.S. Senate In Maryland

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  1. For Topical Use Only

    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    She can make him VP. :)
     
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    No, and I hope she drops out before she does too much damage to Benjamin Cardin's campaign. She's much more useful as a pundit than a politician
     
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    Here's more:

     
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    Manning was convicted of a felony related to the leaking of classified information. A pardon does not change the conviction, only the remainder of the sentence involved.

    So, Manning can never again be given a security clearance to be able to deal with classified information. Being a US Senator involves a great deal of exposure to classified information.

    To me, this is a total PR ploy..... Manning can not legally become a US Senator.
     
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    Post the law that prohibits Manning from running for and/or being elected to the US Senate.
     
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    What are Manning's political positions? What does he want to see done? What would he fight for if elected?
    Here are a few:
    Manning’s main political positions include closing down all prisons, providing free health care and opening U.S. borders to all immigrants.

    “We shouldn’t be denying the absolute right to come into the United States,” Manning told the Guardian. “You have a right, everybody does.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/21/chelsea-manning-senate-run-illegal/

    Just the kind of nonsense you would expect from some fool who thought it would be a good idea to dump a massive amount of military classified info on the internet. lol
     
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    Do you have an actual quote IN CONTEXT from Manning? The Daily Caller has quite a dubious reputation, so do the founders.
     
  8. Brexx

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    How about The Guardian? They report the same thing - probably where the DC got it from.

    In her first campaign statement, Manning mentions three core policy areas: criminal justice, healthcare and immigration. In each, she pitches herself strikingly to the left of Bernie Sanders. Prisons should be closed and inmates released; all hospitals should be free at the point of use, no questions asked; US borders should be open.

    And she really means open. “We shouldn’t be denying the absolute right to come into the United States. You have a right, everybody does.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/19/chelsea-manning-interview-wikileaks-senate-maryland
     
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    "Manning goes as far as comparing New York City’s police presence in Brooklyn as “an occupying force” and sees it as no different as when he served in the military overseas in Iraq.
    “There was this immense police presence and they were militarized,” Manning said of Brooklyn. “I’ve been part of an occupying force in a foreign country, and I know what that looks like. That’s what I saw in Brooklyn – an occupying force.” "

    Manning is absolutely right on this. All police should be withdrawn immediately from the Black ghettoes.
     
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    Why?
     
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    For the love of god , he has a penis. And he is no American hero that's for damn sure .
     
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    Unfortunately this is true. They're like small children, dazzled by the latest fad toy.
     
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    Because it's mean and hurts feelings.
     
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    Even if he has it surgically removed, he's still male. Surgically making your ears pointy doesn't make you a cat.
     
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    Certainly a hero who Gavin us the truth and took years off of her life to do so. Better than the military people who kill innocents daily and hide behind orders when they know what their slaughter does. Oh, and that is all woman. Sorry she has more strength and courage than most men can muster, but toss insults as you like it seems like she is strong enough to take them.
     
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    When we enable crazy people to indulge their wildest delusions, we are too stupid to understand that social cohesion depends in large part upon conformity. It's the glue which holds us together. Whether in a family, a village, a city, or a nation. It's socially responsible to discourage the narcissistic (and it's always narcissistic .. functional people are not nearly so consumed by their own little lusts and urges) from straying too far from the middle of the village street. It's a survival issue, nothing more.
     
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    People who pretend along with the mentally ill person, make themselves look like virtue signalling idiots. There are no brownie points.
     
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    If having a penis is all that is required to make you a man why do we call Donnie little hands male? Clearly the man was born with something most women are larger than. I am not really sure we can call it a penis considering it is an innie. I agree he probably has some testicles that never dropped and probably had semen extracted and placed into his wives. I am pretty sure he had the money for all of that. But calling that a penis is really stretching reality. Clearly Chelsea was born with more down stairs than Donnie has going for him.

    This is all very confusing and you guys need to start being consistent on what you call men. If a penis makes someone a man then we cannot call our president a man. If there are other things involved then I think a case can be made that Chelsea is not a man and Donnie might be one. Figure it out and get back to us.
     
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    Unless you have some sort of designs on chelsea's privates you have no say in the matter. As far as you are concerned when someone is a female or a male depends on their conformity to social gender construct. If it walks, talks, dresses, and acts like a woman than it is a woman because nothing else means anything for you. You are not getting use out of any reproductive organs or sexual bits so you have no purpose in telling them what they are. If you want to claim someone who cannot bring you a child in a family relationship is not a woman for those purposes then that is your need for your romantic relationship. Seems fine to me if you want to require a person to be able to have children for you to form a family relationship with them. But since you are not doing that with most people or Chelsea you do not get to make that decision because it is what you are told that matters. You respect people's presentation as a member of society.

    Sorry to let you know, your opinion is neither required or does it matter. You don't get to tell other people how they will love their lives. So start respecting them or do not respect any for yourself when you cannot be a person with manners.
     
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    Yeah, I always hate it whenever I shoot somebody and all of a sudden there's cops all over me.
     
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    That is your opinion. In my opinion there are plenty of people pretending to be men in the world. Some of them give us some very large signs they are not men like driving around in giant pick up trucks with their guns telling us all they are insecure little weaklings compensating for a lack of penis. I am still going to be polite and call them sir and not yank their chain as nature already gave them the short stick. But is have my opinion of them. I am not going to tell them they cannot buy their truck and walk around like they are men. It is America and if they want to play pretend so be it. It is not my job, or yours, to go start making those judgments. You are entitled to your opinion.

    You are not entitled to go tell miss manning anything about how she lives her life. You cannot go say act like a man because it makes you feel uncomfortable. If she comes and asks you for your opinion, or you want to spout it meaninglessly into the air that is your business, but do not be surprised if some people don't care for you after you do it. It is a bit of a pushy rude thing to do to go bother other people because you don't like what they are doing. You are not the cops of the world. Thanks for your opinion, but it is neither required or valuable for miss manning to live her life as she sees fit.
     
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    Thanks, I would still have liked to hear it from Manning in a video. But if this quote is accurate:

    “The United States has the largest and most expensive military in the world, but we always want more. We have the largest prison system in the world, yet we want more. We have the largest and most sophisticated intelligence apparatus in the world by far, and still we want more. How much is enough? That is my moment – we need this to stop.”

    There is nothing untrue about it. It's not something I would ever hear from most if not all politicians. While I certainly don't favor open borders or releasing all inmates from prison, I don't favor making it unreasonably restrictive for anyone to enter the US either and I would certainly want a full review of the criminal "justice" system, it is thoroughly corrupt and draconian, never mind unconstitutional. I rarely agree completely with anyone running for office but it seems to me I disagree with the majority of politicians on the majority of their platforms more so than not. I would much prefer an "radical anti-authoritarianist” than the typical authoritarian wannabe.
     
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    I never completely agree with anyone running for office either, but when it comes to stuff as crazy as this I can't take anything else he says seriously.
     
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    A male is born, not made. It's simple biology. Anything else IS a construct (specifically .. in this case .. a delusional construct). It's all mind stuff, and no amount of surgery will render you that which your mind imagines. You cannot become a cat, no matter how much you may 'look like' one.
     
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    Trust me when I say that there is nothing remotely discomforting about a gender confused individual. I feel, at this point in the lay-lunacy, considerable pity for such people. Especially the very young. They are being horribly let down by those who claim to care.

    And it's not simply an opinion, it's science and nature. Ideologues will deny science and nature, I get that.
     

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