Are Modern States Evolving Into A Permutation Of Nazism?

In Europe, the United States, Russia, Ukraine and India there seems to have been a revival of sentiments of ethnic nationalism. Indeed it is so extreme in some circles that it is difficult to distinguish between this sentiment and Nazi ideology.

Are we witnessing the evolution of modern states into some permutation of Nazism?
If this is so, what does that mean for the future of the United States?

 

What's up with all this Nazi fascination now-a-days?

 

Not at all. Ethnic nationalism long predates this so-called "Nazi ideology."

What we are witnessing is the death of "multiculturalism" a failed and actually a pretty silly idea when you think about it.

 

I suppose you are talking about me personally. I guess I started talking about them when I was thinking about the question of what makes a society advanced. From there I started thinking about it from a technological point of view which led me to Nazi Germany.

That said, now that I think about it, I see a lot of similarity between the various ideologies in circulation these days and Nazi thought. I remember talking to this black guy a few years ago. His whole thing was that the Jews in the Bible are really black people. He was a real black supremacist. I just let him talk because there is no point arguing with such people.

Any rate, just thinking.

 

Well ethnic nationalism is nothing new. However, when it evolves to the point where the need is felt to subjugate the entire world and disregard other cultures to the point where they are destroyed and brought under the domination of the culture associated with that ethnicity, then it is in Nazi territory or something like that.

 

So going further, I suppose one could look at Zionism and ask the following interesting question. Israel is a relatively small country in terms of geographic size. Let's suppose its Jewish population grows to the point to where it cannot be accommodated within the current geographic bounds. Will the state of Israel at that point attempt to usurp land from other nations like Jordan and Egypt that surround it?

 

I don't find all those nations you mentioned feel the need to subjugate the entire world. The right (or alt-right) in Germany, Sweden, etc. seem more concerned with protecting their ethnic culture from outsiders and is explicitly opposed to multiculturalism.

You mention Nietzsche in another post as an important precursor to Nazism and I would agree. The element I would emphasize here is Nietzsche's idea of the "superman" and the "revaluation of all values."

Nazism was an explicitly post-Christian movement. One observer asserts that the Nazis strove to establish "the replacement of bourgeois-Christian morality by the “species-appropriate humanism” of this new race-ethical morality, justifying eugenics, euthanasia and race murder as being morally unobjectionable and necessary for population politics."

 

So... you're worried that Europe, the US, Russia, Ukraine and India want to "subjugate the entire world?" And that was an idea that the Nazi's invented?

It's really bizarre. There are virtually no Nazi parties on the planet, the few ones that exist are fringe, and there is no major governing political party on the globe that has a platform resembling national socialism, and yet here we are in 2017 and you're scared of Nazi's.

This, is what is known as mass hysteria.

 

I suppose the questions that I would pose to you are

1. Do you feel that the protection of ethnic culture from outsiders entails any means necessary including destroying those who are deemed a threat to the culture? So for example would ethic Germans be justified in killing a community of Jews if that community of Jews were in Germany and appeared to be a threat to German culture? Would Israeli Jews be justified in killing a community of Arabs, if that community of Arabs was in Israel and appeared to be a threat to Jewish culture?

2. Do you feel that the protection of ethnic culture by an ethno-centric nation entails the notion of taking land by force, IF the geographical boundaries of that nation was unable to support the needs of a growing ethnic population?

 

1. No, no and no.

2. No. But would that were a problem for white people!

 

I didn't know my humble notion had incited mass hysteria. No I suppose the question I have posed concerns the evolution of the thinking of people.

 

To clarify, you're a victim of mass hysteria. Don't worry, you're not the only one. That's why it's mass.

 

This is hypothetical. How do you feel that an ethnic German culture could protect itself from a Jewish population that was growing faster than the German population and was starting to exert considerable economic and social influence on that culture?

 

I am not a victim of mass hysteria. I have seriously devoted my energy to the notion that a person should remain equipoised despite material circumstances. Hysteria is a product of matra sparshas, or sense perception. It is described to be like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer, sitishno sukha dukha dah.

Calm down. Perhaps you are projecting the hysteria that is in your mind.

 

Increase German fertility.

 

And if that didn't work, throw in the towel?

 

Unlikely that I'm projecting since I'm not the one worried about Nazi's taking over when they're statistically insignificant.

 

Sure. If the German people lose interest in reproducing themselves there is no longer an ethnic culture worth saving.

 

Well you are worried about something because you indeed projecting worry when there is none of my part. I am merely posing questions.

 

Heh, that is really running out of steam!

Keep "posing questions!"

 

I knew a couple that tried various means to have children and could not do so. The might not be able to reproduce fast enough to compensate, despite a strong desire to do so. So you are saying that they should give up in that situation.

 

Yep, you are surely projecting because you have surely run out of steam. Matter of fact you had no steam to start with. Your posts are nothing more than childish, sterile insults.

 

You are becoming emotional. I calmly pointed out that your great fear was statistically insignificant. You are in more danger of being killed by a terrorist shark throwing lightning bolts than a Nazi. If you apply reason to your irrational fear, it will go away.

Or...

 

Any rate bro, go play on your pogo stick!

Man you are too sensitive.

 

Drats! You've bested me with your pogo stick challenge and laughing emoji! Whatever shall I do?