Russophobia explained.

TAK!

 

Sure he does.

 

I could not make this up if I tried. Was there really a terrorist threat? I doubt that there ever was but that is probably my right brain working overtime.

As I have realized for a long time, the U.S. federal government needs a continual threat to justify the exorbitant budget that it receives on an annual basis. With the madness of a Russian and Chinese threat, see Big Bad Guy, it should be obvious what is taking place. On top of this there is the Clinton influence peddling, the Strzok magical disappearing emails, and the continual investigations to unseat a legitimate ELECTED president, see Donald J. Trump; it will not be long before the BIG BANG of implosion happens.

We could be witnessing the end of “America” as we now know it.

 

Partizan: I think you may have missed my question to you: are you asserting that there was not, initially, widespread Ukrainian collaboration with the invading Germans in WWII? That the claim that there was, is just Russian propaganda?

 

Oh I'm not debating the existence of the cesspool. Just the naive notion of trump supporters that he's actually draining the swamp and not just purging perceived political rivals and replacing them with his own swampdwellers.

I have evaluated the known evidence wrt Trump and his family and his campaign involvement with know russian criminals, intell operatives and government members (granted its hard to tell them apart) to arrive at my opinion.

Funny how you believe you are only interested in the truth, but your obvious difficultly in assessing it, would suggest your library of actual truths is somewhat limited.

And if you are a member of the american tribe then why aren't you screaming from the hill tops that your president has a intimate financial relationship with significant members of traditional adversaries power structure? I hear lots of defense of trump and lots of accusations against democrats but not many in defense of America on the world stage.

I also strongly suggest you take your own advice and self evaluate your own mind. Not that you won't arrive at exactly the same place you started, but its always worth the effort.

 

Modern-day Russkiye are wannabe Westerners? I do not believe this for a second. Russkiye just want to live their lives and live in Rossiya doing what Russkiye do. Why does it always have to be the narcissistic, “They envy us and want to be like us” insane line of thinking? That is the equivalent of saying, “the terrorists hate us for our freedom” and then supporting something like The Patriot Act. That line of thinking to me is marked delusion.

 

You are probably right in trump replacing the cesspool with his own cesspool.

I am not privy to your info on known russian criminals, intel operatives and gov't members. I have only seen allegations, with no solid evidence to support much of this. And, I tend to use non msm news sources, and not sure if you do that. I listen to the contrary voices, and I am considering you do not. You know, the very credible and experienced men, many of them dems, who are blacked out in MSM? Cannot have the other sides of a story in MSM. So if you only listen to hear what you want to hear and contrary voices are blacked out in your sources, I am not at all sure you are actually as informed as you claim. I hear your sources here on this forum regularly. And no, my sources are not right wing blogs or extremely biased outlets like MSM is . I listen quite a bit to Greenwald, who I think is a real journalist, unlike the people you may depend on. I listen to others who cannot practice real journalism here in the US, and have to get the hell out of this Corporate State. For they own safety and to stay out of prison. My sources, many of them, just happen to be Left, like Chris Hedges, but the modern left cannot relate to these people And one reason I call you guys faux liberal partisans.

 

ANOTHER EXCELLENT POST!
May I add that I seriously think that we are witnessing the complete collapse of these United States of [North] America? It has to be this; too many people of different "walks of life" are insane and make no logical sense when what they say and do is carefully examined.

 

Only in your own mind.

You both deny and justify in the same paragraph. . That's hard to do with any credibility and you don't seem up to the task.

 

Mexico and Drug Cartels would not be invaded by any U.S. Armed Services that would be the DEA and Border Patrol.

 

No one knows what the future may hold.

I'd bet there's a plan, though.

 

Rossiya was an Allie in World war Two.
Here is a bit of history that you may be unaware of:

1. During the presidency of Woodrow Wilson, Rossiya was invaded by the United States.

2. The infamous Bolshevik Revolution was bankrolled by Wall Street banking interests.


With this being said, Russkiye have more to be concerned of regarding the United States of [North] America, than Americans do from Rossiya.

 

Thought Criminal,

Do you hale from these United States or elsewhere?

 

You aren't privy to the mountains of information regarding the russian mob in america AND the nature of Putin's Russia because you haven't looked.

Having spent 30 years or so as a communications professional, I am well aware of how the MSM works. I am also well aware of what professional standards of journalism. I use a wide variety of sources and I ALWAYS apply my critical thinking skills when uploading, fully conscious of my own confirmation bias. As to my selection of sources, I usually tailor them to the person i'm responding to, especially when its obvious key concepts and situations are beyond their ken.

AS for you uncertainty as to my knowledge. I am aware that the breadth and depth of my knowledge is unusual, especially in certain environs and amongst certain groups. Too friggin bad, I have spent decades in deliberately acquiring knowledge to become more effective in my professional life, to indulge my interests and curiousity, to inform my opinions, to maximize experiences and minimize consequences.
So I really can't help you with that uncertainty, you'll just have to live with it.

I am most definitely a liberal. A classic liberal. But then again, it seems your vaunted unbiased approached does not prevent you from using bumpersticker caricatures that all entrenched partisans indulge in unthinkingly. (the power of the bumpersticker is on display to those that can see and you obviously can't).

 

I am well aware of russian mobs ,and russia, and Putin. More so than you are perhaps, if MSM is your primary source. Being in communications, one wonders why you can gulp down propaganda so easily, and never notice what you are consuming.

You really should have paid attention what what the lefty Greenwald tried to tell you guys last year. Yes, I trust him over you. I also trust VIPS over you, given their long experience in intel. And you can never trust a person consumed with hatred as your crowd is. It takes away rationality. Always has, always will. Hatred is very powerful.

I think you wasted your life's experiences. Garbage in, garbage out.

 

Poland 1939
Berlin 1949
Budapest 1956
Prague 1968
Afghanistan 1979
Georgia 2008
Ukraine 2014

Any questions?

 

You certainly do have vivid wet dreams.

 

USA

Why do you ask?

I'm hoping to understand your thinking. I'm guessing that you believe I am promoting the idea that the USA would just up and invade Mexico. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that there are people who's job is to plan for the unthinkable.

Let me ask you some questions:

Do you believe cartels influence the Mexican government?

If so, do you believe it's possible for their influence to increase?

If so, do you believe it's possible for them to gain total control of the Mexican government?

Now, let's change the tack:

Do you believe there is some sort of working relationship between Mexican cartels and worldwide terrorist groups such as Hezbollah?

If faced with the scenario of a Mexico, controlled by cartels, inviting their buddies Hezbollah to establish bases from which to launch terrorist attacks against us, what should we do?

I'm not saying that there's even the slightest likelihood of that scenario playing out. I believe we would do whatever it took to stop it, before it went that far. I'm only saying that somewhere, in some storage cabinet, there is a plan for that.

Thus, I ain't concerned, at all, if Russia has a plan to invade Europe, or The USA, or anywhere else. I'd be amazed to find out if they didn't.

 

The first for was CCCP time, 2014 had to do with Neo-Nazi thugs and other occidental backed insurgents ousting a duly elected president and 2008 had to do with dividing Georgia. Some just want "breakaway" states, until the same takes place within their borders.

 

This list not includes period 1918-1920. 14 countries invaded Russia during this period. USA was part of that invasion.

 

I don't care.

 

Then why pretend to have any interest in actually responding to what you have quoted and addressing what was actually said? If you care enough to try to change the subject and sling baseless accusations, but not enough to actually address what you are "responding" to, there's a word for that: trolling.

 

I did not know where you are from. Now that I can do, I can answer better.
During the Obama presidency, BATFE agents went into Mexico supposedly to stop drug runners or some such only to have agents involved with "Operation Fast and Furious" of "Project Gunrunner" be embroiled in gunrunning in cahoots with Mexican cartels.

 

There are only a billion more important issues. The tin foil hat conspiracy nuts deserve to be should mocked for the fools they are along with Joe McCarthy, creationists, birthers, and 9-11 "truthers" And that's the last thing I have to say about this.

 

given the quality of your response I can categorically state I dont' give a **** what you think of me or my experiences.

But I do note a few things that I picked up over the years of wasting my time in pursuing my profession.

First you first deny then acknowledge you actually do know something about the russian mob. But that statement is unsupported simply by your refusal to consider how vulnerable a man of trump's character is to their machinations;.

Second, you presume I can't possibly have an organized and structured approach to processing information. Could it be that your process is not something you spent years developing and cant' conceive of the need or desire?

I am aware of VIPS but they infrequently publish so I hardly consider it a regular reference especially about content of the daily news cycles or domestic internal politics. Although I commend you for supporting their anti war philosophy.
And this is the second time you've mentioned greenwald. Interesting that you seem blissfully unaware of your own information bias. What a surprise.

AS for hatred. I declare my bigotries openly. I express my hatred in confronting those that hold those odious ideologies with deliberate purpose and with malice aforethought. I am not ashamed of my hatreds nor of my tactics. Afterall they are the same ones the racist trolls and scum around here use all the time.

Do unto others as they do unto you is part of my personal credo. So is its corollary do unto others as they do unto others.

I hope that clarifies things for you. And if it doesn't I sure as hell don't care.