Is Republican Immigration Policy A Form Of Ethnic Cleansing?

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    And they make vote counting machines.......
     
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    Its not any kind of Republican position. It might be a hardline conservative position.
     
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    If you see a relevant difference, then... I guess we think of these things differently.

    Suffice to say, your argument is down to saying that there's a difference between conservatives and republicans, which is moving the goalposts, in my opinion.
     
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    Why do you mention skin colour?
     
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    Banning possible terrorists and sending back people here illegally? That’s your argument?
     
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    Even dumber than the Nazi thread. "Illegal Immigrant" is not an "ethnicity," prosecuting immigration lawbreakers and deporting them is not "ethnic cleansing," and misusing the term in this moronic way is an insult to real victims of ethnicity-based oppression the world over.

    What a joke and waste of forum space.
     
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    This just another race obsessed thread.
     
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    It's just how the brainwashed lefty filter translates things. They don't or can't think of things that aren't filtered through their SJW narrative, so if Trump says "I don't want any immigrants from Haiti, they automatically think "oh, Haiti is black so he doesn't want blacks coming here".

    They really can't help themselves, due to the brainwashing they've received at the hands of the MSM.
     
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    Because the comment was about ethnic cleansing. You don't get it, do you?
     
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    Is Democrat immigration little more than a callous attempt by importing a permanent underclass of the underskilled and uneducated?
     
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    Good job of creating Fake News!

    Show me the quote where he is said to have mentioned skin color.

    You can't!

    You made that up.

    Your posts cannot be trusted.
     
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    No, it is not.

    A more intellectual discussion would be to ask the question;

    Is the immigration issue being created by Democrats to fuel a race/culture war designed to divide the nation so they can attempt to capitalize on their version of a solution?
     
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    Why is it only brown countries got listed as shitholes?
     
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    I think that it is a coincidence of societal/political development that these dumps are majority black, or brown if you must.

    What about you?

    What do you think is the cause?

    (Not that I believe that you'll give an honest opinion. You've already proven that you'll just make stuff up.)
     
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    White imperialism.
     
  16. Thought Criminal

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    You suprised me!

    Even though you're wrong, I do think that you believe it.
     
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    Every portion of the world Trump describes as “shitholes” suffered under white imperialism for as much as 4 centuries.
     
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    We are reaching autism levels not thought possible
     
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    True.

    But, that's not why they're in sad shape today.

    Today, it's mostly due to corrupt governance. After that, it's ineffective society-building.

    As a side note, the leftist's tearing down of society in the US, is turning us into the same kind of dump.
     
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    Business has lobbied just that for two hundred years.
     
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    So the Democrats are now in league with big corporations against the little guy? Why do you still vote Democrat?
     
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    Until the Trump cycle, the corporations have always allied with the GOP for cheap, imported labor. I am Republican, mainstream, which you are not.
     
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    OP..I look at it the other way around. The Dems are cleansing the conservatives from America...

    When you add all the pockets of Dem support it will overwhelm the shrinking rural conservative, religious, abortion hating, gun loving Rep supporters.

    The trends shows a decline in rural living and an increase in city living. City dwellers lean to the Democratic vote, rural dwellers tend towards a Republican vote. Conservative policies are just not popular any longer with the upcoming millennial vote. (Gen Z'ers are up in the air as to who gets their vote, but Gen Z is not enough to counter all the rest of loyal Dem supporters.)

    Guns are hated by a good portion of America, the gun haters generally vote Dem with hopes of gun confiscation.

    Legalizing dope is a cornerstone of Dem politics, the dope heads vote Dem with the hopes of getting high 24/7 with easy and cheap access to dope.

    Abortion lovers vote Dem. Since the fateful 1973 decision an estimated 58,586,256 babies have been killed via the full support of the Dems.

    Atheists overwhelmingly vote Dem. The decline of traditional church goers (religiosity) in America is dramatic. As more people lose religion, more go over to the 'anything goes' Dems

    Homosexuals overwhelmingly vote Dem.

    Although transsexuals are only a small part of society, the mentally confused transgender pop are overwhelming Dem.

    Outcasts in society are overwhelmingly vote Dem.

    The white vote is shrinking and will be the minority vote in the USA soon. Conservative whites were a big chunk of the 'hopeful' votes for the Reps. The conservative white vote is being replaced by...

    Mexicans, which overwhelmingly vote Dem.

    Blacks, which overwhelmingly vote Dem.

    Asians, which overwhelmingly vote Dem.

    Immigrants, which overwhelmingly vote Dem.

    Globalists that want to take down all borders vote Dems

    Women are on the move as never before, women's hope is to control the vote in the USA. Women vote Dem in much larger numbers than women vote Rep. Most women are gun haters. So the NRA will be in deep do-do if the women ever take control.

    Healthcare is something neither party can do effectively in the USA...but which party at least tried to offer a toothpick of useless healthcare...the Dems. Anyone that has 'dreams' of affordable healthcare has to vote Dem. (But dreams are all they will ever get whether it is Dem or Rep.) Since American healthcare is profit based, the highest profit must be realized under a capitalist society. And that profit is always determined just a notch behind outright entire collapse. Portions of collapse does not matter to a capitalist society, it is only total collapse that it tries to avoid.

    Living expenses are skyrocketing in America. The minimum wage workers in the US are only 3% to 4%, but the Reps have shown little interest in raising the min wage and some Reps are even for abolishing it. With hopes of making enough money to live in a closet and be able to buy a few cans of dog food to eat, where will the min wage worker lean?

    Many elections are lost just by a few % of the votes, it could be the minimum wage vote that accounts for the tipping point for a Dem success. This is the message this post is trying to get across. Any one Dem support group could never win the vote. But when you add up all the little pockets of Dem support it will overwhelm the conservatives.

    As the robots, illegals and new immigrants take the jobs, the middle class will keep shrinking. The Reps have no record of looking out for the middle class, the Reps are the party of big business. The Dems have a history of entitlement handouts and throwing crumbs to the poor. As the middle class turns into the newly minted poor, they will look towards the Dems for handouts to just try and survive.

    Finally we have the proverbial dyed in the wool Dems. They vote Dem come hell or high water.

    There probably will come a day in America's future where Rep control of politics can't be counted on. CA is the model for this and CA is the model the Dems hold up for the entire USA. As the demographics change there may be no challengers to the Dem rule.
     
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    1. There is no such thing as "white imperialism."
    2. Arguendo, the U.S., and a whole host of other successful, prosperous countries today "suffered" under the exact...same..."imperialism"... for the same amount of time.

    Want to see a roadmap to "shithole?" Here you go (emphasis added):

    "Article 27[edit]
    The property of all land and water within national territory is originally owned by the Nation, who has the right to transfer this ownership to particulars. Hence, private property is a privilege created by the Nation. Expropriations may only be made when there is a public utility cause.
    The State will always have the right to impose on private property constraints dictated by "public interest". The State will also regulate the exploitation of natural resources based on social benefits and the equal distribution of wealth. The state is also responsible for conservation and ecological considerations.
    All natural resources in national territory are property of the nation, and private exploitation may only be carried out through concessions.
    Nuclear fuel may only be exploited and used by the State. The use of Nuclear elements in the Nation may only have peaceful purposes (i.e., Mexico cannot build nuclear weapons).
    This article also deals with other subtleties on what constitutes Mexico's territory.
    Foreign nationals cannot own land within 100 km of the borders or 50 km of the coast; however, foreigners can have a beneficial interest in such land through a trust (fideicomiso), where the legal ownership of the land is held by a Mexican financial institution. The only precondition sine qua non to granting such a beneficial interest is that the foreigner agree that all matters relating to such land are the exclusive domain of Mexican courts and Mexican jurisdiction, and that in all issues pertaining to such land, the foreigner will conduct him or herself as a Mexican, and settle any issues arising from their interest in such land exclusively through Mexican courts and institutions. The stipulated consequence of a failure to abide by these terms is forfeiture to the nation of their interests in all lands where the foreigner has such beneficial interests.
    That an area of land at the coast (20 meters from the highest tide line) is federal property which cannot be sold."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Mexico

    Want more factors in what makes a shithole? OK:

    https://www.tmf-group.com/en/news-insights/business-culture/top-challenges-mexico/

    Note especially in the link "starting a business in Mexico was once a complex minefield." I can assure you that this statement is 100% correct, and was correct as recently as less than 20 years ago. Mexican commercial law is STILL "shithole" law in comparison to countries like the U.S.

    OR name ANY other "shithole" country and I can point you to the parts of their law and culture that make it so. It's not the "deep tan skin" holding these countries back, or fallacious notions like "white imperialism," but hidebound collectivist institutions in their foundational law that hinder and discourage capital formation in comparison to COMPETITIVE venues for business prosperity such as the United States. The gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex DESPERATELY deflects from any blame at its own door onto red herrings like race. Did they fool you? Apparently they did.

    The ONLY countries that successfully operate with lots of statism/collectivism in their codified legal and business structures are 1. TINY in population (the wee OECD socialist Euro "darlings"), 2. Filthy RICH in a high demand resource (Norway), 3. Overwhelmingly homogenous in culture and protection of the homogeneity (Japan), or ideally for socialist apologists, all three.

    3. Many countries have recovered very quickly from factors such as imperialism and war, but the most crushing thing they desperately need to recover from in the 21st century is the statism/socialism/collectivism mistakes of the 20th century.
     
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    Yet the Republican party is the only party fighting against this, most of modern Corporate America is the creature of FDR and the Democrats and most of corporate America's donations go to the Democrats.
     

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