House Democrat Schiff says memo sets stage for firing of special counsel

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  1. jay runner

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    Declassified by order of the President.

    That's the highest the executive branch goes.

    SCOTUS: Dep't of Navy v. Egan, 484 US 518, 527 1988 reconfirms the right of the President to declassify.
     
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    It's all coming unraveled for the left.
     
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    They will release the memo today, feeding the political frenzy, and more importantly, feeding the right wing ferver to stop the investigation.

    These are very scary times. The lack of common sense, and the complete and total lack of critical thinking skills by those on the right who are willing to stop the investigation based on what politicians tell them is just stunning. It is all driven by their hatred for anything liberal, that they are willing to destroy the republic by refusing to question their own. The driver of all of this is Republican Pravda knowns as Fox News. The disinformation coming from them, and from republican politicians is just stunning on a level we have never seen before. This is born out very clearly in the right wing ferver swamps blind inhalation of the Nunes memo as fact, even before its release.

    Simple critical thinking is the downfall of this country. The right is ready to end the investigation, destroy not just individual careers, but the entirety of checks and balances of our government over a memo written by politicians. Forget looking at who has something to gain by the memo, forget context, forget facts, nothing is more important that taking down liberals. Thru all of this, the right claims everything a witch hunt, yet, cant let it play out to see what they find. Not seeing that their very own leaders on the right are attacking the investigators, and not the investigation. They are attacking the investigators, not the evidence. They are attacking the investigators for one very simple reason, cast doubt on the investigator and by proxy you cast doubt on the evidence, and the entirety of the investigation.

    There was a time in this country when those on the right supported police. Remember "blue lives matter" ? We couldn't believe those thugs that were shot, because the police were there to keep us safe and they were above reproach because they carried a badge. Guess that went out the door when Trump told you it should.

    People just need to take a step back, look at whats happening without partisan blinders on and ask some very simple questions:

    1. Who gains from the investigation being ended ?
    2. If nothing illegal happened, then why not let it play out ?
    3. 4 guilty pleas and still the "nothing to see here" ?
    4. The memo.....why suppress any and all dissent to that memo ?
    5. Why are they not challenging the evidence, and instead challenging the investigators ?
    6. Why all the lies in the beginning of the investigation from the Trump campaign and their "meetings" ?
    7. Why fire Comey if they did nothing wrong ?

    The easiest of al questions: Why not let the investigation play out ?
     
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    Steele was a piece of work, how is he still walking the streets.
     
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    Because they gained the FISA on make believe intel.
     
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    Don't worry a special prosecutor will get to the bottom of it.
     
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    Who said anything about ending Mueller's investigation. It will end by itself. A new investigation into who and how FISA warrants were obtained needs to be initiated. I think AG Gowdy will do that.
     
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    They were of the strong opinion that Hillary Clinton would win, as was all of Washington, and this FISA thing was only an 'insurance policy'.

    The difference between Donald Trump and the FBI is that, despite a year long investigation by at least 15 anti Trumpists, there is no evidence of any 'Russian Collusion'. Now, despite the FBI and DOJ fighting against Congress, the first bit of information released shows the FBI and possibly DOJ, breaking existing rules and laws.
     
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    BLM, among others, wish to expose wrongdoing within State and Local police but not any possible wrongdoing among those who do Federal policing. Very strange.
     
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    No the texts will do that.

    Did you notice how Stzork was so open with Page about Fitzgerald being painted SC to investigate Clinton?

    I'm betting there is lots of back and forth about Mueller.
     
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    Your starting point is that the entirety of the dossier is fake. When that is just not true.
     
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    if only the republicans would have listened when the dems were screaming about that very thing 2005 ;)
     
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    Are parts of it fake?
     
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    Did you expect the FBI say anything different? did you actually expect the FBI say everything in the Memo is absolutely true that we broke the law and that we are corrupt?
     
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    Comey told a Senate committee that the dossier remained “salacious and unverified"
     
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    Exactly. But because the poster seemed to feel that because parts of it might be true it should all be admitted as evidence for a FISA warrant. Of course this is nonsense.
     
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    Only evidence that has been made public that was in the Dossier that was conformed to be true was that Page made a trip to Russia but that was public information
    nothing illegal and differently nothing that justified a warrant
     
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    The american public must be the fweedumbest people on the planet; the same schtick has been working for the aristicracy since Bacon's Rebellion. Just keep 'em at each other's throats.
     
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    Doesn't matter what started the snowball rolling down the hill.............. If Trump is innocent then he has nothing to fear

    However facts are facts. Whatever Crimes are found isn't fake. It's just the Facts. Bad people go to Jail !

    Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III on Monday revealed charges against three former Trump campaign officials — including onetime campaign chairman Paul Manafort — marking the first criminal allegations to come from probes into possible Russian influence in U.S. political affairs.
     
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    So the Nunes memo will have nothing whatsoever to do with the FISA legislation and the FBI? :eek:

    Is that the best pretense you can come up with now?

    :roflol:
     
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    Really?

    Then why did BOTH the FBI and DOJ object to the release of the Nunes memo on the grounds that it contained misleading and inaccurate allegations?
     
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    That is nonsensical!

    If it requires the passage of legislation approved by your BLOTUS why would the Dems counter information be allowed to be released without the same degree of rigor?
     
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    BZZZT Wrong!

    Incomplete information is a lousy way to make decisions but that seems to be how the alt right operates when it spews it's disingenuous disinformation.
     
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